I agree that there needs to be some sort of assurance to PSA that the pilots hired will stay. Having said that, I think it's a mark of unprofessionalism to jump ship like that. If you elect to take a position at any company, you accept the benefits and the baggage that comes with it. Regardless of who offers better, you showed up for class. Simple as that. It's your responsibility to stick it out for a reasonable amount of time.

 

Many in the ATP/CTP class were told "You guys know once this is done you don't actually HAVE to come to PSA" by the instructors.
A lot of PSA instructors for initial (Indoc, IPT) are pilots who did not make it through the sim so they're "teaching" while waiting for the next chance.

It goes both ways, PSA can act "unprofessionally" as well.

Besides, there is no letter anyone had to sign that binds you that you HAVE to work at PSA for x amount of time. Even with the bonus - you just have to repay it.

I can think of some easy assurances to make pilot stay.
1. 9E or better pay rates
2. Improve reserve rules (yes, it has been coming for months now, and I'll believe it when I see it)
3. Implement good RIGs so we don't see 15 hour paying 4 days in initial R1 lines (if lines were built efficiently we wouldn't need as many pilots anyway...)

 

With that you can even get away with not doing. That paper you sign is more of a promise than a contract. It is called a signing bonus, not a stay for 2 years bonus.

 

That’s anachronistic. There was a time when companies and employees could expect some degree of loyalty from one another. That time has long passed.

Don’t think for a second if Dion’s phone rings with the order to cut employees, that there will be a moment of hesitation to execute. It’s all about money for them...it should be no different for us. That’s simply “business”.

 

Yep.

Hired by 9E but you don't start until December... Come hang out at Positive Space Airlines until then...

We laugh but I know several that done/doing just that.

Heck, for that matter I'm totally on the fence... take my forced upgrade with below standard pay and crappy reserve rules whose supposed revision date has come and gone or.... jump to Envoy, take my 44k bonus, 3 months paid hotel and positive space commuter tickets.... If I'm going to be forced to upgrade into a base I don't want to sit reserve might as well take 44k+ for the trouble

 

Exactly right. Force upgrade here or DEC at Envoy. Why not? Flow? Please...

 

Has the monthly update/excel regarding each base and r1, etc been moved to another thread or discontinued? I haven't seen it lately.

 

No, but the may one is a very-easy-to-miss clickable link. The picture/chart doesn't display in the thread

 

Thanks. I'll go back through the thread

 

It's in here. The next one is coming out in about 10 days. I haven't been able to upload it here since the forum script is broken.

https://ibb.co/ge5EPH