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09-24-2018 | 06:42 AM

#131

maybe1day

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I’ve been told by multiple mainline pilots that they can’t continue at the current flow numbers and that flow has no choice but to increase from ALL the wholly owneds. They may not know what they are talking about but I guess time will tell.....

09-24-2018 | 06:44 AM

#132

Swakid8

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Originally Posted by maybe1day

Yeah, AA retirement numbers supports that theory as well.

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09-24-2018 | 07:38 AM

#133

mainlineAF

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Originally Posted by maybe1day

They will just increase hiring from off the street before increasing the flow numbers.

09-24-2018 | 12:58 PM

#134

WhiteMorpheus

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They will just increase hiring from off the street before increasing the flow numbers.

Rumor is that's not what daddy Doug/AAG wants, though. That they'd prefer more flows.

09-24-2018 | 03:43 PM

#135

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Originally Posted by WhiteMorpheus

Rumor is that's not what daddy Doug/AAG wants, though. That they'd prefer more flows.

I’ve heard AA has wanted more flows from PSA ever since the SSP/flow program was put into place. Yet, we’ve always had an insanely small flow percentage, because our management claims they can’t afford more attrition. Although, piedmont and Envoy have about the same overall attrition percentage with about double the flow percentage. Right now PSA is flowing only 10 a month with more than 1800 pilots. Before that it was only 5 or 6 a month with 1500 pilots. And before that I think it was 4 until we got to about 900 or so Pilots.

Sounds like AA really does want more but for the last 4 years our management has their own way of thinking of how they think the flow numbers will work. By historical trends we won’t see a flow increase until we get to about 2500 pilots.

09-24-2018 | 04:13 PM

#136

Paperboi

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I heard that they would rather hire more off street than take more flows. Apparently theres been more than a few bad apples coming over.

09-24-2018 | 05:42 PM

#137

chrisreedrules

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An increase in flow will come in 2019 (my educated guess).

09-24-2018 | 07:18 PM

#138

Jecain7

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Originally Posted by Paperboi

I heard that they would rather hire more off street than take more flows. Apparently theres been more than a few bad apples coming over.

I’ve heard the same on both sides of the argument. PSA rumor mill is hard at work. Who honestly knows 🤷🏻*♂️

09-24-2018 | 08:09 PM

#139

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Originally Posted by Paperboi

I heard that they would rather hire more off street than take more flows. Apparently theres been more than a few bad apples coming over.

Shocking...

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09-24-2018 | 08:37 PM

#140

TransWorld

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A little background.

Based on the Boeing published data, the hiring in the next few years (and sustained) in the US by the majors will mean the average time in the regionals of about 5 years, at the current 20,000 pilots.

If flows are 7 years, 10 years, etc. they will not make much sense. Something has to give.