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09-08-2018 | 05:46 PM
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09-08-2018 | 06:06 PM
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From: CRJ FO
09-08-2018 | 07:06 PM
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24 an hour commuting two legs to res in Dayton. I remember. **** was terrible back then. Y'all are making at least 20k more then what we were. And that wasn't that long ago. I'm happy for you. But you don't have it bad anymore. Sure it could always be better, but damn.
09-09-2018 | 02:26 AM
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Oh I remember. And it’s more than $20,000 more. Try double that. I had to literally save money in order to afford the first year pay cut at a regional. And then commute to reserve to fly mostly 200s all summer long and every single turn was a plane swap and no gate. I get the senior-manning is a raw deal, but not that long ago people were FOs for 6-7+ years before they had the opportunity to upgrade.
09-09-2018 | 04:37 AM
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Oh I remember. And it’s more than $20,000 more. Try double that. I had to literally save money in order to afford the first year pay cut at a regional. And then commute to reserve to fly mostly 200s all summer long and every single turn was a plane swap and no gate. I get the senior-manning is a raw deal, but not that long ago people were FOs for 6-7+ years before they had the opportunity to upgrade.
11-12 year upgrades were the norm at the old Eagle.
09-09-2018 | 06:09 AM
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Perhaps, but I'd assign a higher value to someone who made the effort to become fully qualified, and gave it a try before deciding it wasn't for them, than someone who at the first minor challenge threw their hands in the air and said "your airplane".
09-09-2018 | 06:12 AM
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10 Additional Pilots
By comparing the seniority lists from the August and September bid periods, we had a net gain of only 10 pilots.
So I conclude that either:
a) new hire classes are drying up, (because word is out that there are much better places for new hires to go), or
b) new hires are failing training at a significantly increased rate, or
c) guys are moving on at an increased rate, (which I haven't noticed).
So I conclude that either:
a) new hire classes are drying up, (because word is out that there are much better places for new hires to go), or
b) new hires are failing training at a significantly increased rate, or
c) guys are moving on at an increased rate, (which I haven't noticed).
09-09-2018 | 06:16 AM
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By comparing the seniority lists from the August and September bid periods, we had a net gain of only 10 pilots.
So I conclude that either:
a) new hire classes are drying up, (because word is out that there are much better places for new hires to go), or
b) new hires are failing training at a significantly increased rate, or
c) guys are moving on at an increased rate, (which I haven't noticed).
So I conclude that either:
a) new hire classes are drying up, (because word is out that there are much better places for new hires to go), or
b) new hires are failing training at a significantly increased rate, or
c) guys are moving on at an increased rate, (which I haven't noticed).
Classes were shrunk by design designed. I know September we saw some FO attrition in the greater than 1 year range.
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09-09-2018 | 08:10 AM
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Funny you say this we have a fo here who has done that twice to me at low altitude on approach... Still here though... Yikes.
09-09-2018 | 10:39 AM
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As a senior captain, check airman, and APD, I can tell you that they will have someone be seat support for training. It’s up to you to study with classmates outside of the sim and IPT’s. I feel like there’s more to this story. What do you think happens when there’s an odd number of people in class? Or when your partner fails? The training department does what they can. You have to put in the effort. Not having a partner is fairly common.
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