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Mulligan Please 02-10-2021 08:21 PM


Originally Posted by BigZ (Post 3192520)
Haven't been to DFW for a couple of months, big change since the last time is the droves of SKW 700s - I thought those were out of ORD, and DFW was all Mesa 900s?

They have been there for quite a while. (SKW) They opened a base there almost 3 years ago and I am certain its a CRJ 700 base strictly. Could be wrong though. Mesa has the majority of all AA 900s there especially since PSA isn't in and out of there anymore now.

BigZ 02-10-2021 09:00 PM


Originally Posted by Mulligan Please (Post 3193546)
They have been there for quite a while. (SKW) They opened a base there almost 3 years ago and I am certain its a CRJ 700 base strictly. Could be wrong though. Mesa has the majority of all AA 900s there especially since PSA isn't in and out of there anymore now.

talked to someone else about it since posting, might have been the timing that made it seem like there was a lot of them, but also they were parked in high B gates, where Mesa 900s usually park, that's probably why I noticed

Throwitaway 02-11-2021 07:55 AM

PSA's official stance is no "new" airframes and no new bases in 2021. But yet to be over staffed for when Doug is ready to unleashe the onslaught of regional pukes upon the unsuspecting traveling public this spring/summer.

Systemized 02-11-2021 08:09 AM

Back in October, American renegotiated the contract with Skywest. Now they’re going up to 90 700s for American from the current ~60 in operation. Prior to COVID, Envoy had 40 140s, those are all gone along with PSA’s 200s as you know and Skywest had some AA 200s which are now gone. Envoy, Republic and Skywest are all adding 175s for AA.

Varsity 02-14-2021 06:41 PM


Originally Posted by Systemized (Post 3193739)
Back in October, American renegotiated the contract with Skywest. Now they’re going up to 90 700s for American from the current ~60 in operation. Prior to COVID, Envoy had 40 140s, those are all gone along with PSA’s 200s as you know and Skywest had some AA 200s which are now gone. Envoy, Republic and Skywest are all adding 175s for AA.

Envoy isn't adding any more 175's.

AA isn't spending a dime on new or used airplanes, that includes for their WO regionals. It adds to their already problematic debt load. The only growth will be by contract regionals that finance their own airplanes; Skywest, Republic and Mesa.

Financially, the wholly owned carriers are going down with the AAG ship.

chrisreedrules 02-15-2021 08:18 AM


Originally Posted by Varsity (Post 3195217)
Envoy isn't adding any more 175's.

AA isn't spending a dime on new or used airplanes, that includes for their WO regionals. It adds to their already problematic debt load. The only growth will be by contract regionals that finance their own airplanes; Skywest, Republic and Mesa.

Financially, the wholly owned carriers are going down with the AAG ship.

Its kind of why I’ve been perplexed by all this talk of PSA getting airplanes. I realize that 99% of regular line pilots don’t quite grasp what is going on here but there aren’t likely to be any more growth opportunities at the WOs unless AA decides to shut one down and shift the flying to another WO.

BurnerAccount69 02-15-2021 08:30 AM


Originally Posted by chrisreedrules (Post 3195378)
Its kind of why I’ve been perplexed by all this talk of PSA getting airplanes. I realize that 99% of regular line pilots don’t quite grasp what is going on here but there aren’t likely to be any more growth opportunities at the WOs unless AA decides to shut one down and shift the flying to another WO.

yea that kind of confused me, the pre town hall speculation, "Are we going to get planes?" How about we focus on just doing things correctly and safely with what we've got and if demand returns and it happens, great.

JayBee 02-15-2021 10:47 AM


Originally Posted by BurnerAccount69 (Post 3195381)
yea that kind of confused me, the pre town hall speculation, "Are we going to get planes?" How about we focus on just doing things correctly and safely with what we've got and if demand returns and it happens, great.

I think that question stems more from people wondering WTF we have 15ish crew per airplane vs the industry standard 10ish, not because they "too stupid to understand what's happening"

BurnerAccount69 02-15-2021 11:36 AM


Originally Posted by JayBee (Post 3195426)
I think that question stems more from people wondering WTF we have 15ish crew per airplane vs the industry standard 10ish, not because they "too stupid to understand what's happening"

We have that many crews because were inefficient because of SAP..at least that is what everyone tells me.


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