Does This Pilot Group Claim Moon Man?
#101
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Apr 2015
Posts: 608
You know what I find frustrating though all this? When I worked at AA's headquarters - there were (and still are) plenty of 'social media wannabees' who work in the various commercial groups. I have seen many videos of former colleagues showing how sexy it is staying at work till 10p, or how they are working on a deck while on vacation (that expectation is partly why I left). It might not be exactly the same, but they are all selling this 'I'm a hustler' vibe and many times AA's Instagram even like's their posts. They are definitely not approved like Swayne is.
I agree that there are many things that pilots do on IG that are cringeworthy / unprofessional and could erode public trust - but the lack of uniform enforcement is frustrating to me.
I agree that there are many things that pilots do on IG that are cringeworthy / unprofessional and could erode public trust - but the lack of uniform enforcement is frustrating to me.
What gives a company the right to infringe upon your personal freedoms?
Our Founding Fathers are rolling in their graves.
#103
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: May 2009
Position: 787
Posts: 454
#104
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Dec 2011
Position: A320 FO
Posts: 847
You know what I find frustrating though all this? When I worked at AA's headquarters - there were (and still are) plenty of 'social media wannabees' who work in the various commercial groups. I have seen many videos of former colleagues showing how sexy it is staying at work till 10p, or how they are working on a deck while on vacation (that expectation is partly why I left). It might not be exactly the same, but they are all selling this 'I'm a hustler' vibe and many times AA's Instagram even like's their posts. They are definitely not approved like Swayne is.
I agree that there are many things that pilots do on IG that are cringeworthy / unprofessional and could erode public trust - but the lack of uniform enforcement is frustrating to me.
I agree that there are many things that pilots do on IG that are cringeworthy / unprofessional and could erode public trust - but the lack of uniform enforcement is frustrating to me.
Granted that is easier for old timers like me. I didn't grow up with it and I find no value in it now. Thousands of careers are about to be destroyed but I am sorry to see this kid's ruined.
#105
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Feb 2020
Posts: 498
I agree that there is an extreme lack of standardized policies and enforcement thereof. However I would hope by now that any active or aspiring airline pilot is aware that airline pilot / social media personality are not career choices that combine well. The wise pilot eschews social media as much as possible.
Granted that is easier for old timers like me. I didn't grow up with it and I find no value in it now. Thousands of careers are about to be destroyed but I am sorry to see this kid's ruined.
Granted that is easier for old timers like me. I didn't grow up with it and I find no value in it now. Thousands of careers are about to be destroyed but I am sorry to see this kid's ruined.
No offense to this guy, but seeing a pilot dancing around the airport while on duty in uniform doesn’t exactly instill confidence from the flying public. Hopefully he and other younger pilots who have grown up with social media being a part of their lives learn from these mistakes.
#106
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Mar 2020
Posts: 399
There are a few pilots who have a decent social media following. But, they never wear their wings nor any company items, aren’t on duty, and seem professional.
No offense to this guy, but seeing a pilot dancing around the airport while on duty in uniform doesn’t exactly instill confidence from the flying public. Hopefully he and other younger pilots who have grown up with social media being a part of their lives learn from these mistakes.
No offense to this guy, but seeing a pilot dancing around the airport while on duty in uniform doesn’t exactly instill confidence from the flying public. Hopefully he and other younger pilots who have grown up with social media being a part of their lives learn from these mistakes.
Do people really have such a desperate need for external validation? I don’t understand it.
Do the job, be professional, follow the rules. Want to take a photo or video? Get it cleared/approved first. It isn’t a tough concept. Sounds like this guy couldn’t control his own urges, and that’s not someone I want flying my family around.
#107
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Jul 2018
Posts: 449
Agreed. The current crop of new firefighters that we’ve had just doesn’t get it. We have a strict social media policy, yet they just can’t help themselves. Guys taking selfies for the ‘gram in the rig on the way to jobs, even one guy snapping a selfie inside the building at a working fire—the same fire that two of his brothers were injured at, and transported to the hospital. Absolutely ridiculous. Formal reprimands just encourage them to get better at hiding their photography habit. Lately, anyone caught with a phone out in my rig is the automatic hydrant man—enjoy watching your buddies make the push while you’re down the street hooking up.
Do people really have such a desperate need for external validation? I don’t understand it.
Do the job, be professional, follow the rules. Want to take a photo or video? Get it cleared/approved first. It isn’t a tough concept. Sounds like this guy couldn’t control his own urges, and that’s not someone I want flying my family around.
Do people really have such a desperate need for external validation? I don’t understand it.
Do the job, be professional, follow the rules. Want to take a photo or video? Get it cleared/approved first. It isn’t a tough concept. Sounds like this guy couldn’t control his own urges, and that’s not someone I want flying my family around.
That being said deleting social media a couple years ago was the best decision I ever made.
#108
Banned
Joined APC: Mar 2020
Position: E175 Ca
Posts: 27
It’s not that hard. Most corporations don’t give a rat’s ass about what you post as long as you DONT identify them as your employer. Many years ago, prior to dipping my toe into social media a friend who is in corporate security warned me NOT to list my employer.
i have a somewhat large following and do post work pics and such, but I’m careful about content. All it takes is a picture that includes a registration number, flight number etc, and some coworker with too much time on their hands to start the ball rolling.
I’ve even heard of folks being called in for pictures of them at a party (posted by a third party) setting apparently intoxicated that had absolutely nothing to do with their job. The mere fact that their profile showed them to be an agent of the corporation was enough for the company to say it painted them in a bad light.
Another instance had someone posting a racial slur on a thread/subject that was non aviation related. A person took offense and contacted AAG HR. The end result was the pilot losing their job.
i was recentflying with someone that was in the midst of making a social media post while flying. It was also on a company related social media page. I calmly told them that they might want to delete the post since there was a time stamp and “might”cause us both to have to answer questions.
Again, it’s not that hard folks.
Use your head...
i have a somewhat large following and do post work pics and such, but I’m careful about content. All it takes is a picture that includes a registration number, flight number etc, and some coworker with too much time on their hands to start the ball rolling.
I’ve even heard of folks being called in for pictures of them at a party (posted by a third party) setting apparently intoxicated that had absolutely nothing to do with their job. The mere fact that their profile showed them to be an agent of the corporation was enough for the company to say it painted them in a bad light.
Another instance had someone posting a racial slur on a thread/subject that was non aviation related. A person took offense and contacted AAG HR. The end result was the pilot losing their job.
i was recentflying with someone that was in the midst of making a social media post while flying. It was also on a company related social media page. I calmly told them that they might want to delete the post since there was a time stamp and “might”cause us both to have to answer questions.
Again, it’s not that hard folks.
Use your head...
#109
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: May 2009
Position: pilot
Posts: 584
It’s not that hard. Most corporations don’t give a rat’s ass about what you post as long as you DONT identify them as your employer. Many years ago, prior to dipping my toe into social media a friend who is in corporate security warned me NOT to list my employer.
i have a somewhat large following and do post work pics and such, but I’m careful about content. All it takes is a picture that includes a registration number, flight number etc, and some coworker with too much time on their hands to start the ball rolling.
I’ve even heard of folks being called in for pictures of them at a party (posted by a third party) setting apparently intoxicated that had absolutely nothing to do with their job. The mere fact that their profile showed them to be an agent of the corporation was enough for the company to say it painted them in a bad light.
Another instance had someone posting a racial slur on a thread/subject that was non aviation related. A person took offense and contacted AAG HR. The end result was the pilot losing their job.
i was recentflying with someone that was in the midst of making a social media post while flying. It was also on a company related social media page. I calmly told them that they might want to delete the post since there was a time stamp and “might”cause us both to have to answer questions.
Again, it’s not that hard folks.
Use your head...
i have a somewhat large following and do post work pics and such, but I’m careful about content. All it takes is a picture that includes a registration number, flight number etc, and some coworker with too much time on their hands to start the ball rolling.
I’ve even heard of folks being called in for pictures of them at a party (posted by a third party) setting apparently intoxicated that had absolutely nothing to do with their job. The mere fact that their profile showed them to be an agent of the corporation was enough for the company to say it painted them in a bad light.
Another instance had someone posting a racial slur on a thread/subject that was non aviation related. A person took offense and contacted AAG HR. The end result was the pilot losing their job.
i was recentflying with someone that was in the midst of making a social media post while flying. It was also on a company related social media page. I calmly told them that they might want to delete the post since there was a time stamp and “might”cause us both to have to answer questions.
Again, it’s not that hard folks.
Use your head...
It’s a bad deal but he had plenty of folks try to help him and he refused to listen so this rumored outcome does not surprise me at all.
#110
Line Holder
Joined APC: Nov 2017
Posts: 55
This is what moon refused to accept. He had plenty of people, myself included, explain the risks associated with his online activities. He shut down the conversation quickly. He knew what he was doing and thought he had it handled.
It’s a bad deal but he had plenty of folks try to help him and he refused to listen so this rumored outcome does not surprise me at all.
It’s a bad deal but he had plenty of folks try to help him and he refused to listen so this rumored outcome does not surprise me at all.
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post