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Ijustlikeflying 09-10-2021 04:32 AM

Anyone know how quickly applicants are getting called after applying?

buckeyeboi 09-15-2021 01:41 PM

I’ve heard of guys with referrals getting calls within a day or two of submitting their application.

Wormburner 09-23-2021 04:19 AM

I am CLT based and looking at PSA or Piedmont. For a new FO how long are we looking to get CLT as a base for reserve or a line? Also is the flow still 10 pilots/month?

PSA seems like a much better place to work overall, however it seems like CLT is senior and spending more time having to commute might offset that.

Apejackson 09-23-2021 04:25 AM


Originally Posted by Wormburner (Post 3299107)
I am CLT based and looking at PSA or Piedmont. For a new FO how long are we looking to get CLT as a base for reserve or a line? Also is the flow still 10 pilots/month?

PSA seems like a much better place to work overall, however it seems like CLT is senior and spending more time having to commute might offset that.

You should be able to get CLT within 6 months of hire and it looks like time to hold a line is right around 2 years for all bases right now.

Wormburner 09-23-2021 05:00 AM


Originally Posted by Apejackson (Post 3299111)
You should be able to get CLT within 6 months of hire and it looks like time to hold a line is right around 2 years for all bases right now.


How about upgrade? If 2 yrs to hold a line it seems like I would upgrade and be back on reserve right around the same time

ZeroTT 09-23-2021 05:01 AM


Originally Posted by Wormburner (Post 3299107)
I am CLT based and looking at PSA or Piedmont. For a new FO how long are we looking to get CLT as a base for reserve or a line? Also is the flow still 10 pilots/month?

PSA seems like a much better place to work overall, however it seems like CLT is senior and spending more time having to commute might offset that.

PSA and the whole industry are in a period of massive attrition… ie seniority progression. Living in clt, the answer is PSA without any competition. In the scheme of your time at a regional, the initial commute to reserve will be trivial compared to living in the mother ship your whole careee

Wormburner 09-23-2021 05:32 AM


Originally Posted by ZeroTT (Post 3299126)
PSA and the whole industry are in a period of massive attrition… ie seniority progression. Living in clt, the answer is PSA without any competition. In the scheme of your time at a regional, the initial commute to reserve will be trivial compared to living in the mother ship your whole careee

I should clarify that I am about 2.5 hours from CLT and not actually in base. In other words I can make a line work without being a commuter however 2hr callout reserve would be a problem, if I had to do that for 2 years I would have to move or park a camper halfway there or some crap.

One other consideration is flow. I know everyone says "dont count on it" however PDT now flows 9/month starting november and has 750 pilots. If you estimate 35% leave before they flow that's only about 4.5 years to flow which seems achievable.

ASAP 09-23-2021 05:39 AM


Originally Posted by Wormburner (Post 3299138)
I should clarify that I am about 2.5 hours from CLT and not actually in base. In other words I can make a line work without being a commuter however 2hr callout reserve would be a problem, if I had to do that for 2 years I would have to move or park a camper halfway there or some crap.

One other consideration is flow. I know everyone says "dont count on it" however PDT now flows 9/month starting november and has 750 pilots. If you estimate 35% leave before they flow that's only about 4.5 years to flow which seems achievable.


From someone on the line, flying a CRJ, a common sentiment expressed is amazement that anyone would willingly go to Piedmont when PSA is hiring.
PSA isn’t the gold standard in a lot of ways, but flying actual airliners, and the occasional new 900 instead of clapped out, really small 145’s with ****ty schedules doesn’t make any sense to me.

ZeroTT 09-23-2021 05:59 AM


Originally Posted by Wormburner (Post 3299138)
I should clarify that I am about 2.5 hours from CLT and not actually in base. In other words I can make a line work without being a commuter however 2hr callout reserve would be a problem, if I had to do that for 2 years I would have to move or park a camper halfway there or some crap.

One other consideration is flow. I know everyone says "dont count on it" however PDT now flows 9/month starting november and has 750 pilots. If you estimate 35% leave before they flow that's only about 4.5 years to flow which seems achievable.

the Piedmont increased flow is a red herring at best and Potemkin village is probably a better epithet. It’s dependent on attrition targets which will not be met.

time to flow is fundamentally dependent on outside attrition and should be seen as career insurance not a career plan. If you want a redecorated house you don’t sit around waiting for a fire or flood. Same with flow

all that said, the industry is in a hiring boom and seniority progression should be great at least long enough to get you off short call in clt

RJDriver900 09-23-2021 06:21 AM


Originally Posted by Wormburner (Post 3299107)
I am CLT based and looking at PSA or Piedmont. For a new FO how long are we looking to get CLT as a base for reserve or a line? Also is the flow still 10 pilots/month?

PSA seems like a much better place to work overall, however it seems like CLT is senior and spending more time having to commute might offset that.

The important thing to remember is the 2 years is for a round 1 line and thats just current data. A lot has happened over the last year with furloughs, recall etc. Each month they have round 2 build up lines. Its by no means a large amount like round 1 is but CLT has the most round 2 since its the largest base. I know a few people who've been on property for 7-8 months. A handful only did short call after finishing ioe. Then each month they've bounced back and forth between long call and build up lines since. They are charlotte based and have been for the last few months as well so they got CLT within 4-5 months of hire. Now obviously that changes with each new hire class and they could've just been lucky but for October the most junior person to get a round 1 line to sap was around 21 months if I'm reading the chart correctly.


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