Psa new hire
12-22-2021, 06:36 AM
#1011
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Joined APC: Jan 2019
Posts: 9
non-stabilized approach in evaluation
CPK34, about your sim instructor during MV setting you up that high on glideslope.
That doesn't sound right. My background is currently light jets through CAE or Flight Safety. 3 PIC types. And a PIC type on the Shorts 360. Your 1 experience doesn't remotely sound professional. The
main task through all my 135 training has been to fly stabilized approaches into the appropriate missed approach. Even in bad weather, even single engine. Even circling in bad weather. On the
check rides I'm used to, you maintain aircraft control through a time compressed sequence of events. It's hard enough on its own. I can't imagine that it's appropriate to be set intentionally in a
non-stabilized condition and then get graded on your ability to recover. This was only 1 sim instructor? Our 135's ride are KV and MV combined.
I think some young people are too hung up on having 1 failed checkride or event. If you get through regional training, get on the line, contribute, upgrade, contribute some more, then you are due
a job at American/Delta/United etc. regardless of if you have 1/2 bad days in a sim at some point in your career. IMO.
What am I misunderstanding? I am considering PSA in the very near future. This career change for me would be about finishing 121 in a bigger plane with more responsibility. Travel benefits.
Asia and S. America. My biggest fear is that the pace of regional airline for a 60 year old. But does sitting reserve in an airport far from home and not flying much equally stink?
Any PM's from current PSA people would be much appreciated.
That doesn't sound right. My background is currently light jets through CAE or Flight Safety. 3 PIC types. And a PIC type on the Shorts 360. Your 1 experience doesn't remotely sound professional. The
main task through all my 135 training has been to fly stabilized approaches into the appropriate missed approach. Even in bad weather, even single engine. Even circling in bad weather. On the
check rides I'm used to, you maintain aircraft control through a time compressed sequence of events. It's hard enough on its own. I can't imagine that it's appropriate to be set intentionally in a
non-stabilized condition and then get graded on your ability to recover. This was only 1 sim instructor? Our 135's ride are KV and MV combined.
I think some young people are too hung up on having 1 failed checkride or event. If you get through regional training, get on the line, contribute, upgrade, contribute some more, then you are due
a job at American/Delta/United etc. regardless of if you have 1/2 bad days in a sim at some point in your career. IMO.
What am I misunderstanding? I am considering PSA in the very near future. This career change for me would be about finishing 121 in a bigger plane with more responsibility. Travel benefits.
Asia and S. America. My biggest fear is that the pace of regional airline for a 60 year old. But does sitting reserve in an airport far from home and not flying much equally stink?
Any PM's from current PSA people would be much appreciated.
12-22-2021, 07:21 AM
#1013
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Joined APC: Feb 2020
Posts: 476
Originally Posted by Marcdjohnson496
CPK34, about your sim instructor during MV setting you up that high on glideslope.
That doesn't sound right. My background is currently light jets through CAE or Flight Safety. 3 PIC types. And a PIC type on the Shorts 360. Your 1 experience doesn't remotely sound professional. The
main task through all my 135 training has been to fly stabilized approaches into the appropriate missed approach. Even in bad weather, even single engine. Even circling in bad weather. On the
check rides I'm used to, you maintain aircraft control through a time compressed sequence of events. It's hard enough on its own. I can't imagine that it's appropriate to be set intentionally in a
non-stabilized condition and then get graded on your ability to recover. This was only 1 sim instructor? Our 135's ride are KV and MV combined.
I think some young people are too hung up on having 1 failed checkride or event. If you get through regional training, get on the line, contribute, upgrade, contribute some more, then you are due
a job at American/Delta/United etc. regardless of if you have 1/2 bad days in a sim at some point in your career. IMO.
What am I misunderstanding? I am considering PSA in the very near future. This career change for me would be about finishing 121 in a bigger plane with more responsibility. Travel benefits.
Asia and S. America. My biggest fear is that the pace of regional airline for a 60 year old. But does sitting reserve in an airport far from home and not flying much equally stink?
Any PM's from current PSA people would be much appreciated.
That doesn't sound right. My background is currently light jets through CAE or Flight Safety. 3 PIC types. And a PIC type on the Shorts 360. Your 1 experience doesn't remotely sound professional. The
main task through all my 135 training has been to fly stabilized approaches into the appropriate missed approach. Even in bad weather, even single engine. Even circling in bad weather. On the
check rides I'm used to, you maintain aircraft control through a time compressed sequence of events. It's hard enough on its own. I can't imagine that it's appropriate to be set intentionally in a
non-stabilized condition and then get graded on your ability to recover. This was only 1 sim instructor? Our 135's ride are KV and MV combined.
I think some young people are too hung up on having 1 failed checkride or event. If you get through regional training, get on the line, contribute, upgrade, contribute some more, then you are due
a job at American/Delta/United etc. regardless of if you have 1/2 bad days in a sim at some point in your career. IMO.
What am I misunderstanding? I am considering PSA in the very near future. This career change for me would be about finishing 121 in a bigger plane with more responsibility. Travel benefits.
Asia and S. America. My biggest fear is that the pace of regional airline for a 60 year old. But does sitting reserve in an airport far from home and not flying much equally stink?
Any PM's from current PSA people would be much appreciated.
12-22-2021, 07:55 AM
#1014
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Joined APC: Oct 2015
Posts: 235
Originally Posted by Marcdjohnson496
CPK34, about your sim instructor during MV setting you up that high on glideslope.
That doesn't sound right. My background is currently light jets through CAE or Flight Safety. 3 PIC types. And a PIC type on the Shorts 360. Your 1 experience doesn't remotely sound professional. The
main task through all my 135 training has been to fly stabilized approaches into the appropriate missed approach. Even in bad weather, even single engine. Even circling in bad weather. On the
check rides I'm used to, you maintain aircraft control through a time compressed sequence of events. It's hard enough on its own. I can't imagine that it's appropriate to be set intentionally in a
non-stabilized condition and then get graded on your ability to recover. This was only 1 sim instructor? Our 135's ride are KV and MV combined.
I think some young people are too hung up on having 1 failed checkride or event. If you get through regional training, get on the line, contribute, upgrade, contribute some more, then you are due
a job at American/Delta/United etc. regardless of if you have 1/2 bad days in a sim at some point in your career. IMO.
What am I misunderstanding? I am considering PSA in the very near future. This career change for me would be about finishing 121 in a bigger plane with more responsibility. Travel benefits.
Asia and S. America. My biggest fear is that the pace of regional airline for a 60 year old. But does sitting reserve in an airport far from home and not flying much equally stink?
Any PM's from current PSA people would be much appreciated.
That doesn't sound right. My background is currently light jets through CAE or Flight Safety. 3 PIC types. And a PIC type on the Shorts 360. Your 1 experience doesn't remotely sound professional. The
main task through all my 135 training has been to fly stabilized approaches into the appropriate missed approach. Even in bad weather, even single engine. Even circling in bad weather. On the
check rides I'm used to, you maintain aircraft control through a time compressed sequence of events. It's hard enough on its own. I can't imagine that it's appropriate to be set intentionally in a
non-stabilized condition and then get graded on your ability to recover. This was only 1 sim instructor? Our 135's ride are KV and MV combined.
I think some young people are too hung up on having 1 failed checkride or event. If you get through regional training, get on the line, contribute, upgrade, contribute some more, then you are due
a job at American/Delta/United etc. regardless of if you have 1/2 bad days in a sim at some point in your career. IMO.
What am I misunderstanding? I am considering PSA in the very near future. This career change for me would be about finishing 121 in a bigger plane with more responsibility. Travel benefits.
Asia and S. America. My biggest fear is that the pace of regional airline for a 60 year old. But does sitting reserve in an airport far from home and not flying much equally stink?
Any PM's from current PSA people would be much appreciated.
12-22-2021, 08:12 AM
#1015
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Joined APC: Aug 2019
Posts: 235
Originally Posted by saltbae
You have to be here for 10 years to get flight benefits after retirement. You won’t get much time off to use flight benefits while on reserve. Go somewhere else that gives more than 11 days off a month if you want to use flight benefits to travel.
12-22-2021, 08:27 AM
#1016
Line Holder
Joined APC: Nov 2021
Posts: 32
Originally Posted by TheRubberDucky
The rest except KV are PRIA reportable. KV will show up on training records.
https://www.faa.gov/documentLibrary/...AC_120-68J.pdf
Table A-3. Part 121 Subpart Y Training Record Options
Qualification Curriculum – Systems Knowledge Validation - Allow Evaluator’s Comments - N/A Task or Maneuver Which was Unsatisfactory or Incomplete - N/A
Qualification Curriculum – Maneuvers Validation - Allow Evaluator’s Comments - YES - Task or Maneuver Which was Unsatisfactory or Incomplete - Required if unsatisfactory or incomplete
Qualification Curriculum – Line Operational Evaluation - Allow Evaluator’s Comments - YES - Task or Maneuver Which was Unsatisfactory or Incomplete - Required if unsatisfactory or incomplete
Qualification Curriculum – Operating Experience - Allow Evaluator’s Comments - YES - Task or Maneuver Which was Unsatisfactory or Incomplete - Required if unsatisfactory or incomplete
https://www.faa.gov/documentLibrary/...AC_120-68J.pdf
Table A-3. Part 121 Subpart Y Training Record Options
Qualification Curriculum – Systems Knowledge Validation - Allow Evaluator’s Comments - N/A Task or Maneuver Which was Unsatisfactory or Incomplete - N/A
Qualification Curriculum – Maneuvers Validation - Allow Evaluator’s Comments - YES - Task or Maneuver Which was Unsatisfactory or Incomplete - Required if unsatisfactory or incomplete
Qualification Curriculum – Line Operational Evaluation - Allow Evaluator’s Comments - YES - Task or Maneuver Which was Unsatisfactory or Incomplete - Required if unsatisfactory or incomplete
Qualification Curriculum – Operating Experience - Allow Evaluator’s Comments - YES - Task or Maneuver Which was Unsatisfactory or Incomplete - Required if unsatisfactory or incomplete
The rest are reported to training records? And by training records - I assume this is only in PSA's records... Not the faa.
12-22-2021, 08:29 AM
#1017
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Joined APC: Nov 2021
Posts: 32
Originally Posted by DrSmacFum
So what is it? I have kept hearing that piedmont isnt the best destination because they don't get as many days off as Envoy & PSA, and get paid the same. So are the other wholly owneds only averaging 11 days off? That conflicts with everything I've heard.
even if you're a 20 year old captain there. There QOL is one of the worst in the entire regionals.
At PSA, you might start off at 11 days, but once you have SAP eligibility, you can get like 17 days off a month.
12-22-2021, 09:05 AM
#1018
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Joined APC: Feb 2018
Posts: 113
Originally Posted by airlinenewhire
I'm a little lost, so what exactly is reported to PRIA? KV and LOE only?
The rest are reported to training records? And by training records - I assume this is only in PSA's records... Not the faa.
The rest are reported to training records? And by training records - I assume this is only in PSA's records... Not the faa.
12-22-2021, 09:41 AM
#1019
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Joined APC: Feb 2018
Posts: 113
Originally Posted by CPK34
Of course there is always risk in any training but my experience was 7 different instructors over the sim footprint and in every sim, despite the inconsistencies, we were always realistically set up to be successful on an approach when repositioned. Not so on the MV. There, it was being repositioned on a gps with 3 step downs VERY high (requiring immediate deployment of flaps and or boards) and 40 kts fast not yet established with no AFCS modes engaged, no checklists done, and no configurations done. APD had zero personal skills and created a vibe that made you feel he was not in the least in your corner. Came across some great people there but be prepared for the unexpected during checking! Wildly different standards depending on which APD you had.
12-22-2021, 10:24 AM
#1020
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Joined APC: Feb 2020
Posts: 476
Originally Posted by DrSmacFum
So what is it? I have kept hearing that piedmont isnt the best destination because they don't get as many days off as Envoy & PSA, and get paid the same. So are the other wholly owneds only averaging 11 days off? That conflicts with everything I've heard.
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