Macchi30

Not going to lie, these training stories are discouraging

Cleared4appch

I’m not even at the airlines yet, but I have an interview with them in January. Look, just hunker down each day and study really hard and you’ll be fine. Don’t listen to the horror stories too much. Should you listen to these people some? Eh, Kinda sorta, but not really. Take it with a grain of salt. There’s always 2 sides to the story. Anytime a student/applicant says this or that happened, you will almost always hear it from a different angle or perspective from the instructor. I remember in my pre CFI checkride days I kept listening too much to the ‘horror stories’ from people who failed, especially online about how they failed their ride because of ‘x’ reasons. This fear was kind of a good thing in that I studied harder, because I was determined not to fail. I studied my butt off for it, studied harder than I ever did in college, and passed. It was the easiest checkride I’ve ever done, and I credit the preparation I put into it. I’ve learned that the ones who talk up horror stories generally don’t study very much.

Not trying to compare the CFI ride to the ATP/type ride, because they’re 2 different animals, but hard work pays off anywhere in this business. If you don’t know something, ask your instructors. Demand that they work with you. Show up with questions each day. Show them you want it and want it badly. Tell yourself failure isn’t an option, and that you will push through it no matter what. Above all, just give it your absolute best. You owe it to yourself. And if you do fail, well, it’s something to learn from. If they give you the option to get hired on again after a failure or if you’re hired on somewhere else, take what you learned with you, and apply it there.

dera

PRIA means every single event gets reported to your next carrier. Every. Single. Event.

Bust an MV? It's in your PRIA.
Unsat a sim and have to repeat it? It's in your PRIA.
Fail indoc written exam? It's in your PRIA.

It should be safe to say, everything is in your PRIA. Not everything is reported to the FAA, but it will be to the future employers.

saltbae

There’s a reason all the AA regionals are offering 15K signing bonuses for FO’s and Skywest offers nothing. A reason they’re offering captains 150K to stay… when everyone is leaving at their first chance, you should ask why

mike sierra

i want to save that post and come here after 6 years when you might upgrade after people junior to you.

everyone is showing the problema….if you don’t wanna believe it…good luck

btw: never failed a checkride at psa, however I saw many, many unfair issues, people as APD that were biased and unfair.

or the fampus: an important Psa person would come to class and say: look at the person sitting next to you: one of you will fail training

boxthrower

Unfortunately by the time you hear this in class it’s too late

arbalist1

Even the ground school instructors that have been teaching the stuff for years get furious over the things an APD chooses to fail people for.

GRDWN3Grn

The LOE is PRIa reportable. Thats your type ride. The rest would be on your training record as a unsat .

TheRubberDucky

The rest except KV are PRIA reportable. KV will show up on training records.

https://www.faa.gov/documentLibrary/...AC_120-68J.pdf

Table A-3. Part 121 Subpart Y Training Record Options

Qualification Curriculum – Systems Knowledge Validation - Allow Evaluator’s Comments - N/A Task or Maneuver Which was Unsatisfactory or Incomplete - N/A

Qualification Curriculum – Maneuvers Validation - Allow Evaluator’s Comments - YES - Task or Maneuver Which was Unsatisfactory or Incomplete - Required if unsatisfactory or incomplete

Qualification Curriculum – Line Operational Evaluation - Allow Evaluator’s Comments - YES - Task or Maneuver Which was Unsatisfactory or Incomplete - Required if unsatisfactory or incomplete

Qualification Curriculum – Operating Experience - Allow Evaluator’s Comments - YES - Task or Maneuver Which was Unsatisfactory or Incomplete - Required if unsatisfactory or incomplete

CPK34

Of course there is always risk in any training but my experience was 7 different instructors over the sim footprint and in every sim, despite the inconsistencies, we were always realistically set up to be successful on an approach when repositioned. Not so on the MV. There, it was being repositioned on a gps with 3 step downs VERY high (requiring immediate deployment of flaps and or boards) and 40 kts fast not yet established with no AFCS modes engaged, no checklists done, and no configurations done. APD had zero personal skills and created a vibe that made you feel he was not in the least in your corner. Came across some great people there but be prepared for the unexpected during checking! Wildly different standards depending on which APD you had.