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AkPilot99 01-07-2022 02:06 PM
Originally Posted by DoNoHarm (Post 3348524)
Not exactly true. Some of those new hires have already left class, so the 71 number isnt correct. Also, several that left were put on PER leave (not flows), and not sure why. Some pilots that left over a month ago are still on the list as well.

The worse part is that PSA traded lots of captains for new hire FOs, and lost a lot of Check Airmen as well.
Ah, I see. Welp… oh boy…

ZeroTT 01-07-2022 02:40 PM
Was 45 the November or December losses?

AkPilot99 01-07-2022 02:43 PM
Originally Posted by ZeroTT (Post 3348546)
Was 45 the November or December losses?
December
…filler

AkPilot99 01-07-2022 02:45 PM
Originally Posted by ZeroTT (Post 3348546)
Was 45 the November or December losses?
November shows 47 lost but not sure how accurate that is given the info above.

ZeroTT 01-07-2022 03:00 PM
The company to union numbers are presumably accurate. This isn’t a syssen comparison

DoNoHarm 01-07-2022 03:11 PM
Originally Posted by ZeroTT (Post 3348561)
The company to union numbers are presumably accurate. This isn’t a syssen comparison
There is a guy that puts the lists into Excel, runs a sort on duplicates and removes them, and you are left with all of the names that appear on one list and not on the next. Shows all of the people that left the list. Pretty easy way to tell the "real" attrition. But then you can go in and look at the people that are already gone and still on PER leave, and others that left over a month ago and are still on the list as active, and you can see that the real number is actually a little higher.

ZeroTT 01-07-2022 03:27 PM
I understand that, but part of the bonus LOA was that the company has to give the union a detailed attrition breakdown every month. They send that out in an email.

AboveAndBeyond 01-07-2022 05:22 PM
Originally Posted by ZeroTT (Post 3348575)
I understand that, but part of the bonus LOA was that the company has to give the union a detailed attrition breakdown every month. They send that out in an email.
Did the LOA say that it had to be accurate? Hahaha

ZeroTT 01-07-2022 05:52 PM
Originally Posted by AboveAndBeyond (Post 3348649)
Did the LOA say that it had to be accurate? Hahaha
not that it would matter if it did

DrSmacFum 01-07-2022 06:18 PM
Originally Posted by DoNoHarm (Post 3348524)
Not exactly true. Looks like 58 gone, including the flows. Some of those new hires have already left class, so the 71 number isnt correct. Also, several that left were put on PER leave (not flows), and not sure why. Some pilots that left over a month ago are still on the list as well.

The worse part is that PSA traded lots of captains for new hire FOs, and lost a lot of Check Airmen as well.
As in the new hires that already left class are getting hired elsewhere? Or are they failing out of training?

Thanks!


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