neither is the bottom 1000 in a BK. You have a fleet of 40 year old planes, we have a fleet of 10 year old planes.

I am just saying the facts jack, including our bleak future, but at least I can see it.

Also the comair planes went to other airlines like ASA, the flying is still there, its just not at comair.

Also PDT is a lot older and tired of a fleet than Eagle.

 

Agreed, but we're assuming a Parker controlled merger with mainline furlough protection. In a Horton controlled merger, then yes, my bet says 1000 furloughs are possible.

I understand, Jill. Mergers are usually not kind to labor. If AE didn't have 200 wobbly albatrosses combined with 700-1000 overpaid riders riding them, I'd feel differently about AE's prospects, merger-wise. AE pilots best bet is a stand-alone AA and then AE may indeed flourish, but I think a U merger is inevitable and would happen too soon for real benefit.

Yep, under ALPA's swiss-cheese scope, those planes could go to cheaper operators with cheaper pilots...................or, they could offer transfer for Eagle pilots at 1st year rates.

If given the choice, what would you think most would do..........1st year scale or Home Depot ?

"old and tired" has meaning, but "uneconomical and unneeded" has even more. AE is right up there with anyone on that.

 

I agree, only thing about AE is the size, you can not replace our feed overnight, and the size to do it will be hard in the current, and upcoming pilot markets. For someone like PDT with a few dash's and a small size, it can happen much faster. Also Eagle will last the costs of the top in BK.

Can someone from PSA/PDT tell me what happened to your work rules and pay during CH11???

Same with Comair or Expressjet.

 

Did you proof read your post? Makes little sense.

 

It's true that eagle is a large airlne that would be difficult to replace quickly. I will point out however that just a few years ago, AA tried to sell AE but could not find a buyer. AE is a money pit; like it or not. During this bankruptcy process, long before Doug will even think about swooping in, aircraft leases will be shed. Aircraft like 50 seats and smaller.

On another note, we can't repeat in public what is said in crew news, but I'll say that I get the impression from Dougs' PHX meeting that the MD-80s are going to be around for a awhile, in the event that there's a merger. Hence furlough protection for AA pilots.

 

You assume that Parker needs all that feed and the negatives of acquiring ALL of AE, outweigh the positives.

Agreed nothing will happen overnight.

 

AMR is also very hardheaded, and is an all or nothing mentality. They try to sell AE and name a high price, and wont talk about anything else. Same with bidding out flying, it is why they never have much luck.

Eagle operates at an industry average rate, and pulls a 4-6% profit. This is fact. We are the same price to AA via fee for departure and we still bring in a 4% profit on average. PNCL, Republic, Mesa, Expressjet (skywest) CAN NOT seem to do this. So something is being done correctly. You add in some huge pay cuts coming, and hard slashes to the top 20%.

 

I would love to see what Eagle's "profit" is from American's side of the books. They may very well be absorbing a loss. That would explain no takers for Eagle all these years.

 

I would think the contrary. Why not the other way around. They are in CH11, all the books are open.

 

It's amusing that the three pilot groups are bickering over something they have no control over. Looks like whatever the issue, everybody is going to be butthurt.