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bradeku1008 02-24-2014 03:47 PM


Originally Posted by Joliet (Post 1588656)
PSA's upgrade time is down to 4 and a half years swiftly headed towards three.

PSA FO pay is maxed out at 4 years.

PSA CA pay does not reset to year 1. If you upgrade at year 6 you are at year 6 CA pay.


Upgrades will be down to 3 years in April/May.

pagey 02-24-2014 04:12 PM


Originally Posted by bradeku1008 (Post 1588913)
Upgrades will be down to 3 years in April/May.


They have the potential to go well below that very soon with one huge caveat.

We need to be able to staff. Right now we can't staff what we have. It's going to get medieval ugly around here in a couple months.

bretthull 02-24-2014 04:33 PM


Originally Posted by pagey (Post 1588932)
They have the potential to go well below that very soon with one huge caveat.

We need to be able to staff. Right now we can't staff what we have. It's going to get medieval ugly around here in a couple months.

Should be more interesting once PSA gets Eagles CRJ's. Im guess they will be transferred late this year or early next and will replace some of the 200's.

bradeku1008 02-24-2014 04:33 PM


Originally Posted by pagey (Post 1588932)
They have the potential to go well below that very soon with one huge caveat.

We need to be able to staff. Right now we can't staff what we have. It's going to get medieval ugly around here in a couple months.

Yep, they have started holding people back that have been hired on at Airways. They are going to start running classes of 25 instead of 20 according to the VP. The staffing numbers will be better by May as long as they keep filing classes.

CaptKrunch 02-24-2014 04:41 PM



Originally Posted by pagey (Post 1588932)
They have the potential to go well below that very soon with one huge caveat.

We need to be able to staff. Right now we can't staff what we have. It's going to get medieval ugly around here in a couple months.

Should be more interesting once PSA gets Eagles CRJ's. Im guess they will be transferred late this year or early next and will replace some of the 200's.
That doesn't make sense. They can not afford to loose the lift from either PSA's 200's or the eagle 700's and PSA can't staff both. They do two completely different types of routes.

bretthull 02-24-2014 05:15 PM


Originally Posted by CaptKrunch (Post 1588955)
That doesn't make sense. They can not afford to loose the lift from either PSA's 200's or the eagle 700's and PSA can't staff both. They do two completely different types of routes.

Its no secret our 700's are going away, our management has been saying the CRJ's will be transferred to another regional leave regardless of how the TA vote went. It just makes sense to send them to PSA. I dont see them being offered to Air Whiskey unless they take concessions. Its unlikely Mesa could staff them, plus they will probably get some of the 175's that were headed our way. That doesnt leave a lot of other options for the company except for PSA.

lakehouse 02-24-2014 05:26 PM

Could they give psa our 700s and use them to meet the terms of their new cba?

smackahoCEO 02-24-2014 06:26 PM


Originally Posted by bretthull (Post 1588981)
Its no secret our 700's are going away, our management has been saying the CRJ's will be transferred to another regional leave regardless of how the TA vote went. It just makes sense to send them to PSA. I dont see them being offered to Air Whiskey unless they take concessions. Its unlikely Mesa could staff them, plus they will probably get some of the 175's that were headed our way. That doesnt leave a lot of other options for the company except for PSA.

Re: not going to air whiskey without concessions......

Doug Parker and company do not care what AWAC pays their pilots. They want the job done, and will pay Awac $____ to provide the lift.
They dont care about the 401k match, the rigs, the insanely good insurance.

Fun fact. Awac has gone from about 680 pilots to over 800 in a relatively short time. Whatever is happening (my $$$ would be on more -200's), somethig is going on.

Moonwolf 02-24-2014 07:32 PM


Originally Posted by bradeku1008 (Post 1588946)
Yep, they have started holding people back that have been hired on at Airways.

I'm confused, you mean holding back people going from psa to mainline?

Moonwolf 02-24-2014 07:35 PM


Originally Posted by smackahoCEO (Post 1589023)
Re: not going to air whiskey without concessions......

Doug Parker and company do not care what AWAC pays their pilots. They want the job done, and will pay Awac $____ to provide the lift.
They dont care about the 401k match, the rigs, the insanely good insurance.

Fun fact. Awac has gone from about 680 pilots to over 800 in a relatively short time. Whatever is happening (my $$$ would be on more -200's), somethig is going on.

I wouldn't read too much into that. Part 117, and slow attrition in think added a surplus. Don't get me wrong, that would be great but I don't see us adding more 200's.


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