Saabless

They screwed over the whole regional pilot industry trying to finally stop the whipsaw together. All regional ALPA carriers are standing together on this issue to finally make reasonable gains in our career. Unfortunately PSA pilots don't want to stand with the rest of their ALPA brothers and sisters on this issue at this critical time. Fortunately, Republic, Express Jet and Eagle have a back bone on this issue and make up the majority of all regional pilots combined. I'm sure PSA pilots would love to take the rest of all future aircraft orders by flying for food stamp wages at our expense. Can they grow to 9,000+ pilots to replace us as we all get Comaired in the near future? I hope not.

Braniff

WOW you guys bash PSA left and right, they did not take ANYONE'S flying whatsoever! You want to throw "scab" and bags of garbage at people, do it to the ones that HAVE taken flying away. Go look at GOJET's planes with the CA letters at the end of their tail number....hmmm looks like they took flying away from someone! Caused someone to be furloughed. Take a look at Republic that everyone is clapping for for voting down a contract that couldn't even match PSA's. I believe they are flying new 175's on envoy's routes......hmmm looks like they took flying away from someone! Caused someone to have a lower quality of life at envoy. How about the almighty Skywest that everyone thinks so highly of...DID YOU KNOW that when they entered into an agreement with US Airways to fly 200's in Pheonix, TO REPLACE MESA, that the reason they got the contract was because they agreed to operate the 200 for a loss. Better to lose a little money than a lot sitting in the desert. hmmm me thinks pilots were furloughed from MESA from that deal......OH OH this is my favorite...how about Skywest flying the CRJ200 with American Eagle stamped on their plane while Envoy's frame count drops......hmmm me thinks this caused some hardship at the REAL EAGLE. Now here we have good ole compass, "we just signed for enhancements to our contract" looks like they just took Envoy's 175's right from their hands, I bet it's going to cause some more pain to be suffered by the pilots of Envoy. What does that say for those companies AND the pilots that choose to work for them for that "quick" upgrade.

These companies have actually stolen flying from you, PSA has done no such thing. Those 900's were never destined for Envoy, they were to receive the 175's that Compass just stole away with their "enhancements."

Give PSA a break we did what we had to do to keep you "scabs" from taking our flying AGAIN with your "enhancements" We tried it your way once, voted down 40 900's back in 2007/08 to protect our career. What did it get us....furloughs...stagnation...families suffered, while they magically turned into 175's for Republic. You all seem to forget that, they then came to us again with 4 900's...we voted that down too. What did it do to help the industry...it helped Republic pilots upgrade faster! What were we supposed to do this time, hope that you would finally grow a pair and stand your ground? You never did before so, for good reason, we didn't trust our "brothers and sisters" at the regionals. Glad we didn't.....Mesa just picked up a great deal of new flying and compass just stole some flying from Eagle....before you start bad mouthing us, look in the mirror

fisherman

You are wrong here; the 900s were in fact destined for Eagle until US Air management demanded Eagle take a B-scale in order to get the 900s. The Eagle MEC took a stand and rejected the B-scale so as not to screw over all other pilots in this industry. The Eagle MEC did the right thing and stood up for all regional pilots.

The 900s were never destined for PSA until US Air management punished Eagle for rejecting the B-scale.

Cruz5350

Skywest took over the CHQ flying and I highly doubt the PHX flying was at a loss even if it was at a loss SKW pays more to it's pilots than Mesa ever will. I'd rather see it go to a company that compensates better than another.

PilotCrusader

These PSA guys love to act the innocent but there is no hiding behind the truth - They took concessions for airplanes when everyone else is saying no.

This should not come as a surprise. Sit down with any Piedmont pilot and listen to the history of them being hosed by PSA. Recently, people theorized Piedmont was going to hose the rest of us too when they didn't sign the multi regional ALPA contract to no longer lower the bar. Ask any Piedmonter and you will know it is because they regard the contract as worthless being that PSA signed it, AFTER they had just hosed everyone.

I had a USair Captain in my jumpseat today. As always lately, the conversation turns to the goings on. This was the first guy I had met yet that was unaware of PSAs recent selfish move. Suffice to say, once I had enlightened him, he was damn close to not letting a brown streaker in his jumpseat.

The word is out. Don't call it being a scab I don't care. You can't get past being scum though.

Mason32

That rationalization is what was/is wrong with the FFD carriers. In this stage of the industry that argument doesn't hold water. It wasn't about the planes, it was about the voluntary pay cuts outside of bankruptcy to get jets, after Eagle just refused paycuts for jets.

Compass got raises. Expressjet refused concessions. Republic refused concessions, and in fact refused what would have been among industry leading in many areas. Commutair and Silver even stood up to say enough, and ended up with significant gains.

The ALPA FFD committee is falling apart because the leaders from Mesa, PSA, PDT are refusing to follow through on creating a industry standard base pilot contract. They'd rather just try and profit over you other guys turning down planes. If you're a pilot at one of those three turncoat companies, you should be calling your union leaders demanding explanations and resignations.

block30

What's going on at this committee? Where can we average line pilots read or follow the goings on there? This is important to be brought to light. Thank you!

Saabless

I have no problem with Skywest or Compass painting their hulls in Eagle colors. Those pilots have contracts in place and their company was awarded some American flying. They are trying to feed their family just like the rest of us. Does it suck for Envoy pilots who were promised those new planes PSA were given after taking bankruptcy concessions a year ago? Sure. But what really stings is a pilot group anxious to take concessions for those new planes seconds after the Eagle pilots said NO to more consessions in the form of a B scale. This was a time to stick together as a profession. Not take consessions and lower the bar to entice Parker to place these shiny new planes with the lowest bidder. How much less are we worth? I'm sure some other fly by night company will sell their souls to AAG to get a few new planes so their pilots can get a quick upgrades at the expense of the rest of the airline profession. Fortunately PSA is a small company and the hiring departments at the majors are aware of these Gojet like maneuvers. And fortunately the rest of the regional airline pilots are unified together as to not take more concessions to get new planes and quick upgrades. The rest of us need to stay strong and not let a minority group ruin our profession and livelihood.

Dukeuno

That is problem with some guys mentality. They think they are better because they never got caught. I actually know 4 guys that have DWI or DUI on their record that have gotten hired at a Major Airline in the last 5 years ( my cousin was one of them. He actually got his in 95' and then got in the the Navy in 98'. Then got hired at a Major in 2010.) The other 3 work at the Regional I am at right now. The went to US Air, JetBlue, Southwest and United. Now most of these had these DWI or DUIs over 6 years ago, and they will tell you there is more paper work involved and networking to get hired but it is possible. It does not automatically disqualify you or make you a bad employee. It just shows you are human and made a mistake and got caught.

Jvw700

Here's an idea.. Don't drink and drive!!!!!!! Are you guys somehow justifying a DUI? This is the true problem with some guys mentality! Which is also a hazardous attitude. It's ok if you don't get caught right? I wonder what the thousands of people who have had loved ones die by a drunk driver would say about this?!