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Old 02-09-2015 | 07:04 AM
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Originally Posted by dfwflyboy
You do realize, in order to upgrade pilots, you have to have pilots under them to replace the FO seat.
Hiring 700 pilots this year alone will be improbable. I'm willing to bet the orders will be canceled, delayed, or sent to an airline that can staff. So bank on stagnation or shrinkage. Hope for growth. I don't think you will see any regional able to grow in this environment.
Nah they have proven how stupid some of our fellow pilots are at math. They will continue to sucker pilots into the right seat. I don't see them failing at it, but their logic is as fallible as you have stated: I just wish others could see it.
I stated logic with normal math. So far, the dupers have used small adjustments without numbers...it's better known as misdirection: the used car salesmans best friend.
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Old 02-09-2015 | 07:05 AM
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If you are reading this though, I hope you are not a christian person, because lying, especially to make others lives worse, will ensure your soul burns in hell. Generally, I have found car salesman to have already sold their souls though.
LOL!! That's some funny stuff right there! You feel better now?
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Old 02-09-2015 | 07:07 AM
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Originally Posted by Doogi
If you already have 1000 sic OR certain Militay/135 time to count towards the sic requirement then the "super fast, less than a year upgrade" is NOT gone. In fact, our current upgrade is at 6 months (April 2014 new hire). This is going to continue for some time as well.

If you are someone who does not currently meet these requirements then a realistic upgrade projection would be 18-24 moths. Keep in mind this is still one of the fastest upgrades in the regionals today. Only attrition to American was mentioned. What about every other Legacy, Cargo, LCC, Fractional, and Overseas that are all hiring? Not all PSA pilots are holding out for American....
Im not holding out for AA. Im holding out for SWA!!!
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Old 02-09-2015 | 07:08 AM
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Originally Posted by PilotCrusader
Omg!!! You are making me laugh. Yeah because so many young guys are like "gee I'm just not ready for the left seat! I'd like to keep going as an FO, making 20 some grand instead of 70-80 some grand". Yeah I'm sure those numbers are so significant to make my numbers "way off".
Do you even work here? There are at least 100 FOs that have the time to upgrade but have already bypassed and that number keeps growing. A bunch of them in the training department are enjoying 117 hrs of pay and a nice QOL instead of being scheduling's whipping boy. So yea your numbers are about as off as the Patriots football's PSI.
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Old 02-09-2015 | 07:08 AM
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Im not holding out for AA. Im holding out for SWA!!!
Huh, not sure how I forgot SWA. I wish you luck!
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Old 02-09-2015 | 07:11 AM
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Originally Posted by Dunkin
Do you even work here? There are at least 100 FOs that have the time to upgrade but have already bypassed and that number keeps growing. A bunch of them in the training department are enjoying 117 hrs of pay and a nice QOL instead of being scheduling's whipping boy. So yea your numbers are about as off as the Patriots football's PSI.
Oh another ****ed of Seahawks fan? Brady is legit. Do t be hating.

100 FOs that have passed upgrade but have the time? Ohhhhkay. And that is a good thing for a new hire to hear even if true? Come on.
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Old 02-09-2015 | 07:12 AM
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Originally Posted by Riverside
Yeah I thought it was unusual switching from gojets to psa
haha that's only half of it
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Old 02-09-2015 | 07:13 AM
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Originally Posted by dfwflyboy
You do realize, in order to upgrade pilots, you have to have pilots under them to replace the FO seat.
Hiring 700 pilots this year alone will be improbable. I'm willing to bet the orders will be canceled, delayed, or sent to an airline that can staff. So bank on stagnation or shrinkage. Hope for growth. I don't think you will see any regional able to grow in this environment.
Go ahead and place that bet and let me know how that works out in a couple years. The airlines that will have a hard time getting new hires will be the ones with a 8 year upgrade and losing airplanes. There are plenty of applicants still out there, especially for a 6 month upgrade.
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Old 02-09-2015 | 07:13 AM
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Originally Posted by dfwflyboy
You do realize, in order to upgrade pilots, you have to have pilots under them to replace the FO seat.
Hiring 700 pilots this year alone will be improbable. I'm willing to bet the orders will be canceled, delayed, or sent to an airline that can staff. So bank on stagnation or shrinkage. Hope for growth. I don't think you will see any regional able to grow in this environment.
Did you copy and paste this post from September of 2013? This sounds awfully familiar.

We hired 600 pilots in 2014 with a training dept. maybe half the size of what it is right now.
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Old 02-09-2015 | 07:13 AM
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Originally Posted by Doogi
LOL!! That's some funny stuff right there! You feel better now?
Trying to turn a blind eye to what you do will not save you from your fate. You are part of the evil that society will be unraveled by.
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