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Old 06-23-2015, 12:25 PM
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This sounds like a way better deal than that CQFO thing that a few fell for over at TSA.....
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Old 06-23-2015, 12:46 PM
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Why would the length it took the last group to flow have any bearing on a pilot hired there now?

Your flow time is only dependent on the attrition above you and the hiring at mainline. Unless you think age 65 will go away, pilots can magically fly with no medical issues for age infinity, the economy will crash, and the airlines shrink, there is nothing holding back the hiring at mainline.
It has everything to do with it. You're making guesses and assumptions it'll be 6 years when you still have FOs with 6 years seniority. The facts are right now it's almost twenty years to flow to American from envoy. When and if that changes I will acknowledge it.
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Old 06-23-2015, 12:49 PM
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This sounds like a way better deal than that CQFO thing that a few fell for over at TSA.....
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Old 06-23-2015, 01:00 PM
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It has everything to do with it. You're making guesses and assumptions it'll be 6 years when you still have FOs with 6 years seniority. The facts are right now it's almost twenty years to flow to American from envoy. When and if that changes I will acknowledge it.
I guess you're too dense.

It's pointless to listen to this guy. He doesn't understand how numbers work. A pilot hired 15-20 years ago at Envoy took that long because of the situations that happened with AA hiring. That experience has no bearing on the flow time of those getting hired at Envoy. The flow time of an Envoy pilot hired today is only dependent on the hiring at AA. That is it, not the time frame of those flowing now.
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Old 06-23-2015, 01:07 PM
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Originally Posted by 404yxl View Post
I guess you're too dense.

It's pointless to listen to this guy. He doesn't understand how numbers work. A pilot hired 15-20 years ago at Envoy took that long because of the situations that happened with AA hiring. That experience has no bearing on the flow time of those getting hired at Envoy. The flow time of an Envoy pilot hired today is only dependent on the hiring at AA. That is it, not the time frame of those flowing now.
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Old 06-23-2015, 01:46 PM
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If you were a hot dog, would you eat yourself?
I know I would
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Old 06-23-2015, 01:48 PM
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Forever reserve CA. It'll take 2 years to get 1000pic
Really short captains right now, just upgraded and I'm already getting used like crazy!
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Old 06-23-2015, 02:34 PM
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How many envoy pilots that flow to AA actually make it through training?
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How many envoy pilots that flow to AA actually make it through training?

Idk this is a PSA thread. Try the major AA section


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Old 06-23-2015, 03:15 PM
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How many envoy pilots that flow to AA actually make it through training?
Overall, a 3% failure rate. That has dropped drastically to below 1% in the last year. Some of the first guys to go had not been to new aircraft training in 15 years, and hadn't been an FO for over 20.
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