Who is going to be stapled and where?

 

If you want to talk about holding the line, one could argue Skywest pilots are the worst offenders by not voting in representation while their sister company shrinks. I'm not arguing my opinion, just throwing that argument out there. Skywest pilots do not have a union or collective bargaining agreement like every other 121 scheduled airline including the most recent JetBlue, allegiant and virgin America (the last three I mentioned don't have a CBA yet but will soon).

 

While I won't disagree with you, most of the people here are too comfortable to even put forth the effort to do such a thing. We're kind of like the Switzerland of the Regionals. Happy, glassyeyed, and like to ski. Most see a union is as just a loss of 2% of your pay with significant nothing to show for it. Every union is fighting against each other instead of with. Not one airline is represented by a true national union. If you think they are, go talk to someone at IBEW (International Brotherhood of Electrical Workers). Thats what a real union looks like. When you're willing to push for something like this, I'll be at the front of the pack with the biggest pitchfork.

Skywest may not be helping to be part of the solution, but we definitely aren't the worst offenders out there in the regional world. You'd have to look inward at your own unions to find who's really responsible for the **** storm the last decade was.

 

I must say it is 'hi-larryous' that PSA pilots are beating the 'union' bongo after stabbing fellow ALPA Eagle pilots in the back. Go union! Hahahahahahahahhaha.

 

It's all about PSA...don't you understand? They only care about themselves...

Good luck waiting on the grievance. Envoy pilots won the LowTime FO grievance 2 years ago and we haven't seen a dime. Arbitrator should issue the ruling this month, still don't believe it until I see the money in my account.

Expect PSA/AAG management drag their feet for a couple of years. If it cost them money and if is good for the pilots, forget about it.

 

It's got nothing to do with union, its just that we don't like Envoy.

 

The Critical Pay issue is a very simple fix;

1. Round 1 line holders: SAP down to 75 (65 if you're willing)
2. Everyone else: Stop picking up open time and don't answer your phone on days off.

If we as a pilot group could all agree to those 2 steps the company would find itself in a true critical situation very quickly. They would burn through the reserves quickly and start attempting to junior man. When they are unable to junior man they will have no choice but to cancel flights and that might finally get us some attention.

This is not a strike and this is not a union action, this is just each pilot making a personal decision to follow the contract to the letter even though the company has not. I would estimate it will take 2-3 months before the changes take place.

I will start making my personal decision March 1st

 

As long as we don't burn the FOs (myself included, full disclosure) with families that can't keep them fed or housed at 75/65 hours a month. Honestly, only the CAs (those that can afford it), could accomplish this while the poverty level FOs continue to scrape by with pay protection.

Post upgrade, if the upgrades don't stop, I'll gladly bid down and get more time off.

This could lead to more than just a critical pay fix.

 

I fully agree. food, shelter, and kids come first. I'm a reserve capt, thats why I didn't suggest round 1 guys SAP below 75, since I can't take myself below guarantee I certainly wouldn't expect anyone else to.

I understand this will be a squeeze for a lot of guys, but with the staffing situation already near critical, I wouldn't expect it to be for long.

Also fellow reserves remember:

"If a pilot has credited at least 71 hours for flying assigned by the company in a month, any remaining reserve days can be dropped in order of seniority.The pilot will select this in his monthly bid. If the remaining reserve days are not dropped, the pilot will be placed on long-call reserve on any such remaining days" 3.K.2

 

And when the reserve grid is black and no one can drop days anymore, the guys on long call will just continue flying since long call reserves get used the most. Making this sections pretty much useless.