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Old 02-15-2016 | 09:13 AM
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Turn them phones off fellas. Days off are sacred.
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Old 02-15-2016 | 02:10 PM
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Originally Posted by seattlepilot
I love it how you guys agreed to a crap contract and now complain about people picking up open time. We told you that the rates were crap and capped 4 year pay was bad. Did you listen ?

You made this bed.. You need to lay in it.
+1. I love seeing you little b****** whine
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Old 02-15-2016 | 02:21 PM
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Originally Posted by spaaks
+1. I love seeing you little b****** whine
You're not even a pilot so I don't know what you are even doing here.
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Old 02-15-2016 | 02:26 PM
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But what about the "best scheduling flexibility in the industry?"
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Old 02-15-2016 | 02:31 PM
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Originally Posted by gold
But what about the "best scheduling flexibility in the industry?"
PSA's contract actually has some parts that are heads and shoulders above the rest of the industry. There are bad parts as well.

The catch is, AAG will have to fix the pay scale and the 12/4 in the next year or so, or shut PSA down. Everyone knew that when it was voted in. The bad parts of the contract will be gone. How is that a loss for pilots?

Critical pay made PSA the highest paying regional in the industry, and the SAP made the schedules very flexible. The company stole critical pay away.
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Old 02-15-2016 | 03:06 PM
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Originally Posted by CLT Guy
PSA's contract actually has some parts that are heads and shoulders above the rest of the industry. There are bad parts as well.

The catch is, AAG will have to fix the pay scale and the 12/4 in the next year or so, or shut PSA down. Everyone knew that when it was voted in. The bad parts of the contract will be gone. How is that a loss for pilots?

Critical pay made PSA the highest paying regional in the industry, and the SAP made the schedules very flexible. The company stole critical pay away.
Why in Gods holy trousers will they shut PSA down? That makes less than 0 sense.
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Old 02-15-2016 | 03:12 PM
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Originally Posted by penaltybox
Why in Gods holy trousers will they shut PSA down? That makes less than 0 sense.
They won't. They will need to raise pay. That was my point.

PSA will be forced to raise pay, or they will not be able to attract any new hires.
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Old 02-15-2016 | 04:42 PM
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Originally Posted by CLT Guy
They won't. They will need to raise pay. That was my point.

PSA will be forced to raise pay, or they will not be able to attract any new hires.
It's too late. We already aren't attracting new hires. The stuff has only begun to hit the fan. Even if we get a flood of new hires, they are months away from the line barring no delays. We have been shrinking while taking on more aircraft. According to all the surveys everyone came here for the fast upgrade. No one came for the bases, flow or FO pay. At 4 a month, the upgrade flood is over. Righting the ship today will still mean no noticeable results for months. PSA was gambling on buying someone or someone going bankrupt. They gambled and lost. Time to pay.
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Old 02-15-2016 | 04:45 PM
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Originally Posted by joek
Open time ( SAP) is left over crap that was put together and was never part of any line. Join the Sch committee and see how it's done.
Sure but seniority based and FCFS are what's left over after people SAP stuff away. It doesn't change the fact that we could flood open time with more flying than we have reserves to cover. We are out of schlitz. Time to press back a little.
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Old 02-15-2016 | 04:47 PM
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Originally Posted by gold
But what about the "best scheduling flexibility in the industry?"
Reading comprehension is a gift. We aren't even talking about schedule flexibility. We still have it. Run along, run along.
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