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Old 05-09-2016, 09:45 AM
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You report to us, not the other way around. Right now we're asking for an answer to a question. I fully expect you to answer it immediately or you should step down. This isn't a discussion or a negotiation. Do as you are told and answer the question, either publicly or privately.

Nobody here should have to ask you twice, its common decency and frankly you are just rude and arrogant thinking you know what's best.
If you want a dog on a leash you should try the Humane Society.

If you'd like to go postal on the MEC they're meeting now in Dayton. All members invited.

But the fact that you're arguing with an anonymous name in the Internet and thinking that actually matters tells me that you'll do neither.
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Old 05-09-2016, 09:47 AM
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Originally Posted by FirstClass View Post
You report to us, not the other way around. Right now we're asking for an answer to a question. I fully expect you to answer it immediately or you should step down. This isn't a discussion or a negotiation. Do as you are told and answer the question, either publicly or privately.

Nobody here should have to ask you twice, its common decency and frankly you are just rude and arrogant thinking you know what's best.
I can't believe I'm going to say this but:

Whether or not this guy is TR I agree with you. We have the right to know this information. We PAY MONEY for ALPA representation. If these rumors of the CCP arbitration being decided is true it is ALPA's duty to disclose this information.

If there are negotiations happening and you haven't spoken with your pilot group about it how do you know what your pilot group wants? If this is the case ALPA is most certainly not representing the pilots interests, they are assuming what those interests are. This is not why they were elected in the first place.

Tell us what is going on.
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Old 05-09-2016, 09:59 AM
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Originally Posted by FirstClass View Post
You report to us, not the other way around. Right now we're asking for an answer to a question. I fully expect you to answer it immediately or you should step down. This isn't a discussion or a negotiation. Do as you are told and answer the question, either publicly or privately.

Nobody here should have to ask you twice, its common decency and frankly you are just rude and arrogant thinking you know what's best.
Have you called your rep?
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Old 05-09-2016, 10:05 AM
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If there are negotiations happening and you haven't spoken with your pilot group about it how do you know what your pilot group wants? If this is the case ALPA is most certainly not representing the pilots interests, they are assuming what those interests are. This is not why they were elected in the first place.

Tell us what is going on.
Do you truly believe that your MEC, that flies the line and talks to pilots on a daily basis, doesn't know what the pilot group wants?

Do you honestly feel like TR, who has been the Contract Enforcement chair before he was MEC chair, doesn't know where and how the company likes to screw with people?

Did you even vote in any past representation elections?
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Old 05-09-2016, 10:18 AM
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But the fact that you're arguing with an anonymous name in the Internet and thinking that actually matters tells me that you'll do neither.
It was your decision to close the private forum.
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Old 05-09-2016, 10:20 AM
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Do you truly believe that your MEC, that flies the line and talks to pilots on a daily basis, doesn't know what the pilot group wants?
Yes we do believe that precisely. What we want is current information, you are not providing that. So -no- you don't know what the pilot group wants do you. We're asking for information right now, nothing more.
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Old 05-09-2016, 10:28 AM
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It was your decision to close the private forum.
I had nothing to do with it, but you do know there's a new forum with MEC involvement and someone posting a lot of data, right?

www.bluestreaklounge.com

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Yes we do believe that precisely. What we want is current information, you are not providing that. So -no- you don't know what the pilot group wants do you. We're asking for information right now, nothing more.
Well then you're delusional. If you're honestly suggesting that pilots how have been on property for a significant amount of time have no idea of the desires of the pilot group as a whole then you're thinking is very flawed.

Try answering the rest of my questions.
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Old 05-09-2016, 10:32 AM
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I had nothing to do with it, but you do know there's a new forum with MEC involvement and someone posting a lot of data, right?

www.bluestreaklounge.com


Well then you're delusional. If you're honestly suggesting that pilots how have been on property for a significant amount of time have no idea of the desires of the pilot group as a whole then you're thinking is very flawed.

Try answering the rest of my questions.
I don't care about what the other pilots think or do, I'm asking you a question that you are unwilling to answer.
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Old 05-09-2016, 10:49 AM
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I don't care about what the other pilots think or do, I'm asking you a question that you are unwilling to answer.
Have you called your rep?
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Old 05-09-2016, 10:57 AM
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I don't care about what the other pilots think or do, I'm asking you a question that you are unwilling to answer.
I keep telling you, I'm not TR. Wh don't you call your rep and ask if the MEC Chair is posting on APC while in the MEC meeting.

Better yet, why don't you go there yourself and make your opinions heard.

Or, just keep making demands to anonymous people on the Internet.

Again, I'm pretty sure I know which one you'll pick.
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