PSA Critical Pay
05-09-2016 | 03:23 AM
#201
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Anyway you should just tell the pilot group where you are at. Take the temperature of the group before negotiating something new. It's not your decision alone.
05-09-2016 | 04:39 AM
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Don't like their decisions? Vote for someone else, or start the recall, or decertification if you're feeling really ambitious.
Or you can just keep betraying your lack of knowledge about how this whole process works.
I'm pretty sure I know which of those options you'll choose. The easy one.
05-09-2016 | 05:02 AM
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Quit with the insults. Grow up.
It is the responsibility of the MEC to inform the pilot group of the arbitrators decision. People are and have been making life altering decisions based on critical pay. We have lost 20 year pilots because they are making less now than they did under the old contract. All the while we negotiate higher pay to retain f/o's.
Clearly ALPA has no long term plan.
It is the responsibility of the MEC to inform the pilot group of the arbitrators decision. People are and have been making life altering decisions based on critical pay. We have lost 20 year pilots because they are making less now than they did under the old contract. All the while we negotiate higher pay to retain f/o's.
Clearly ALPA has no long term plan.
05-09-2016 | 05:33 AM
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Of course it's not TR's decision alone. It's the MEC's decision, which the pilot group elects.
Don't like their decisions? Vote for someone else, or start the recall, or decertification if you're feeling really ambitious.
Or you can just keep betraying your lack of knowledge about how this whole process works.
I'm pretty sure I know which of those options you'll choose. The easy one.
Don't like their decisions? Vote for someone else, or start the recall, or decertification if you're feeling really ambitious.
Or you can just keep betraying your lack of knowledge about how this whole process works.
I'm pretty sure I know which of those options you'll choose. The easy one.
05-09-2016 | 08:49 AM
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It's easy to be a flaming keyboard commando, especially considering understanding and patience are not prerequistes for the job. It's not nearly as easy to actually get off your ass and do something, because then you might actually have to give up some time and *gasp* learn something that may conflict with your ill
Informed worldview.
The MEC and other union volunteers are just like everyone else; line pilots with an opinion. They've just chosen to be constructive with it.
05-09-2016 | 08:51 AM
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Quit with the insults. Grow up.
It is the responsibility of the MEC to inform the pilot group of the arbitrators decision. People are and have been making life altering decisions based on critical pay. We have lost 20 year pilots because they are making less now than they did under the old contract. All the while we negotiate higher pay to retain f/o's.
Clearly ALPA has no long term plan.
It is the responsibility of the MEC to inform the pilot group of the arbitrators decision. People are and have been making life altering decisions based on critical pay. We have lost 20 year pilots because they are making less now than they did under the old contract. All the while we negotiate higher pay to retain f/o's.
Clearly ALPA has no long term plan.
Zero.
Zilch.
Nada.
05-09-2016 | 09:38 AM
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Nobody here should have to ask you twice, its common decency and frankly you are just rude and arrogant thinking you know what's best.
05-09-2016 | 09:45 AM
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You report to us, not the other way around. Right now we're asking for an answer to a question. I fully expect you to answer it immediately or you should step down. This isn't a discussion or a negotiation. Do as you are told and answer the question, either publicly or privately.
Nobody here should have to ask you twice, its common decency and frankly you are just rude and arrogant thinking you know what's best.
Nobody here should have to ask you twice, its common decency and frankly you are just rude and arrogant thinking you know what's best.
If you'd like to go postal on the MEC they're meeting now in Dayton. All members invited.
But the fact that you're arguing with an anonymous name in the Internet and thinking that actually matters tells me that you'll do neither.
05-09-2016 | 09:47 AM
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You report to us, not the other way around. Right now we're asking for an answer to a question. I fully expect you to answer it immediately or you should step down. This isn't a discussion or a negotiation. Do as you are told and answer the question, either publicly or privately.
Nobody here should have to ask you twice, its common decency and frankly you are just rude and arrogant thinking you know what's best.
Nobody here should have to ask you twice, its common decency and frankly you are just rude and arrogant thinking you know what's best.
Whether or not this guy is TR I agree with you. We have the right to know this information. We PAY MONEY for ALPA representation. If these rumors of the CCP arbitration being decided is true it is ALPA's duty to disclose this information.
If there are negotiations happening and you haven't spoken with your pilot group about it how do you know what your pilot group wants? If this is the case ALPA is most certainly not representing the pilots interests, they are assuming what those interests are. This is not why they were elected in the first place.
Tell us what is going on.
05-09-2016 | 09:59 AM
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You report to us, not the other way around. Right now we're asking for an answer to a question. I fully expect you to answer it immediately or you should step down. This isn't a discussion or a negotiation. Do as you are told and answer the question, either publicly or privately.
Nobody here should have to ask you twice, its common decency and frankly you are just rude and arrogant thinking you know what's best.
Nobody here should have to ask you twice, its common decency and frankly you are just rude and arrogant thinking you know what's best.
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