PSA Critical Pay
05-08-2016, 07:59 AM
#191
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Originally Posted by 272922
Rumor in the street is you're at mainline, which means you were senior enough to reap the immediate benefits of the flow.
So does that make you the PSA equivalent of eaglefly? At least he uses some basic math and common sense.
So does that make you the PSA equivalent of eaglefly? At least he uses some basic math and common sense.
05-08-2016, 09:09 AM
#192
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Originally Posted by FirstClass
Hold on there buddy. If what he says is correct and there has in fact been a ruling by the arbitrator, and then you as the head of the union are covering up that there has been a ruling in favor of some kind of negotiation, you are doing a major dis service to the pilot group. To be clear, the pilot group deserves to know the facts of the situation. You are accountable to us not the other way.
Just sayin'......
05-08-2016, 01:08 PM
#193
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Originally Posted by joek
Rumors are carried by haters
Spreaded by fools
And accepted by IDIOTS
Spreaded by fools
And accepted by IDIOTS
The company has a contract to abide too. The union has obligations to hold the company to the contract. Our elected officials owe it to the union paying members to enforce it.
I've lost over $75k in two years. If in fact the union has known for 2 months that the arbitration was settled they are required to inform the pilot group.
Those that filled out PRF's are due answers. If we aren't getting 30% of our income then let us know, So we can find representation outside of ALPA.
05-09-2016, 03:23 AM
#194
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Originally Posted by 272922
If your only evidence that I'm TR is that I know more labor law than you do I guess that means that 90% the posters in this forum could be TR.
Just sayin'......
Just sayin'......
Anyway you should just tell the pilot group where you are at. Take the temperature of the group before negotiating something new. It's not your decision alone.
05-09-2016, 04:39 AM
#195
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Originally Posted by FirstClass
You've never flat out denied it.
Anyway you should just tell the pilot group where you are at. Take the temperature of the group before negotiating something new. It's not your decision alone.
Anyway you should just tell the pilot group where you are at. Take the temperature of the group before negotiating something new. It's not your decision alone.
Don't like their decisions? Vote for someone else, or start the recall, or decertification if you're feeling really ambitious.
Or you can just keep betraying your lack of knowledge about how this whole process works.
I'm pretty sure I know which of those options you'll choose. The easy one.
05-09-2016, 05:02 AM
#196
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Quit with the insults. Grow up.
It is the responsibility of the MEC to inform the pilot group of the arbitrators decision. People are and have been making life altering decisions based on critical pay. We have lost 20 year pilots because they are making less now than they did under the old contract. All the while we negotiate higher pay to retain f/o's.
Clearly ALPA has no long term plan.
It is the responsibility of the MEC to inform the pilot group of the arbitrators decision. People are and have been making life altering decisions based on critical pay. We have lost 20 year pilots because they are making less now than they did under the old contract. All the while we negotiate higher pay to retain f/o's.
Clearly ALPA has no long term plan.
05-09-2016, 05:33 AM
#197
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Originally Posted by 272922
Of course it's not TR's decision alone. It's the MEC's decision, which the pilot group elects.
Don't like their decisions? Vote for someone else, or start the recall, or decertification if you're feeling really ambitious.
Or you can just keep betraying your lack of knowledge about how this whole process works.
I'm pretty sure I know which of those options you'll choose. The easy one.
Don't like their decisions? Vote for someone else, or start the recall, or decertification if you're feeling really ambitious.
Or you can just keep betraying your lack of knowledge about how this whole process works.
I'm pretty sure I know which of those options you'll choose. The easy one.
05-09-2016, 08:49 AM
#198
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Originally Posted by FirstClass
You're in the minority. Try and look at this from our point of view. This is a new development and you need to check in with your constituency. Do your job.
It's easy to be a flaming keyboard commando, especially considering understanding and patience are not prerequistes for the job. It's not nearly as easy to actually get off your ass and do something, because then you might actually have to give up some time and *gasp* learn something that may conflict with your ill
Informed worldview.
The MEC and other union volunteers are just like everyone else; line pilots with an opinion. They've just chosen to be constructive with it.
05-09-2016, 08:51 AM
#199
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Originally Posted by seafeye
Quit with the insults. Grow up.
It is the responsibility of the MEC to inform the pilot group of the arbitrators decision. People are and have been making life altering decisions based on critical pay. We have lost 20 year pilots because they are making less now than they did under the old contract. All the while we negotiate higher pay to retain f/o's.
Clearly ALPA has no long term plan.
It is the responsibility of the MEC to inform the pilot group of the arbitrators decision. People are and have been making life altering decisions based on critical pay. We have lost 20 year pilots because they are making less now than they did under the old contract. All the while we negotiate higher pay to retain f/o's.
Clearly ALPA has no long term plan.
Zero.
Zilch.
Nada.
05-09-2016, 09:38 AM
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Originally Posted by 272922
Yeah, that whole idea of growing from 49 airplanes in a period where pilots were easy to hire, to a much larger carrier in an environment where pilots are a scarce resource clearly shows absolutely no long term thinking.
Zero.
Zilch.
Nada.
Zero.
Zilch.
Nada.
Nobody here should have to ask you twice, its common decency and frankly you are just rude and arrogant thinking you know what's best.
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