PSA Interview Gouge
03-01-2018, 05:37 AM
#151
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Originally Posted by Nyflier
An ODP is to be flown if you do not hear “Radar Contact”. A good example is Asheville.
ODP - Optimal Descent Profile: A Constant descent angle used to make all "gates" found on the STAR
ODP - Obstacle Departure Procedure: A non-standard departure procedure that requires a certain climb gradient to avoid contact with cumulo-granite or cumulo-ferrous objects.
For the interview, they're talking about the first one.
03-01-2018, 09:04 AM
#153
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Originally Posted by WhiteMorpheus
Two different meanings got the same acronym.
ODP - Optimal Descent Profile: A Constant descent angle used to make all "gates" found on the STAR
ODP - Obstacle Departure Procedure: A non-standard departure procedure that requires a certain climb gradient to avoid contact with cumulo-granite or cumulo-ferrous objects.
For the interview, they're talking about the first one.
ODP - Optimal Descent Profile: A Constant descent angle used to make all "gates" found on the STAR
ODP - Obstacle Departure Procedure: A non-standard departure procedure that requires a certain climb gradient to avoid contact with cumulo-granite or cumulo-ferrous objects.
For the interview, they're talking about the first one.
ODP - Obstacle Departure Procedure
03-02-2018, 08:04 PM
#154
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Originally Posted by WhiteMorpheus
Two different meanings got the same acronym.
ODP - Optimal Descent Profile: A Constant descent angle used to make all "gates" found on the STAR
ODP - Obstacle Departure Procedure: A non-standard departure procedure that requires a certain climb gradient to avoid contact with cumulo-granite or cumulo-ferrous objects.
For the interview, they're talking about the first one.
ODP - Optimal Descent Profile: A Constant descent angle used to make all "gates" found on the STAR
ODP - Obstacle Departure Procedure: A non-standard departure procedure that requires a certain climb gradient to avoid contact with cumulo-granite or cumulo-ferrous objects.
For the interview, they're talking about the first one.
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03-11-2018, 04:28 PM
#155
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Okay, new questions. I’m trying to dig this out of the previously posted links and info, but the Jepp webinars are confusing at best in some spots.
Departures:
Do you fly the SID or the ODP? Where is the ODP a player?
What are the numbers referencing on the graphical depiction underneath the transition name? (Ex. 11000 3900T, on the CLT2.PITTY)
Takeoff minimums; CLT as an example:
RVR 5? RVR 10? Next column states adequate vis reference RVR 16 - I’m guessing there’s an assumption that I don’t know about what does and doesn’t allow these numbers to be used? Same subject - there’s a column for number of engines, not sure what that means?
Departures:
Do you fly the SID or the ODP? Where is the ODP a player?
What are the numbers referencing on the graphical depiction underneath the transition name? (Ex. 11000 3900T, on the CLT2.PITTY)
Takeoff minimums; CLT as an example:
RVR 5? RVR 10? Next column states adequate vis reference RVR 16 - I’m guessing there’s an assumption that I don’t know about what does and doesn’t allow these numbers to be used? Same subject - there’s a column for number of engines, not sure what that means?
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03-11-2018, 06:52 PM
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More to the pile - final approach profile view altitudes. Take a CLT ILS, multiple altitudes I would have called step downs. However, Jepp has the altitudes “below the line” which I would have translated as max altitude at that fix, but then it swaps to above the line at the FAF and appears to depict a min altitude?
Does above/below the line for altitudes have no description assumed, or are they indeed at or below except for the FAF which is “above” as depicted?
Does above/below the line for altitudes have no description assumed, or are they indeed at or below except for the FAF which is “above” as depicted?
03-12-2018, 04:36 AM
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It's my understanding you only fly the ODP when you're not assigned a SID.
11000 is the MEA
3900T is the MOCA
That 10-9a took me a little to get too. It's a "if this, then that" type chart.
If, you're below our standard minimums (5000rvr), AND CL and HIRL are both working, you can go down to minimum visibility of 500, 500, 500rvr (or whatever is in the left column). If some of those things are not working (listed in the second column) that is the new minimum takeoff visibility. If you don't have any of those items working, but you have Adequate Vis Ref (there's a definition in the Jepp Glossary online somewhere), then that column has your new visibility minimum to take off. It's hard to describe via keyboard.
As far as the altitudes on the Jepp approaches. Those are all minimum altitudes on the profile view.
Good luck!
11000 is the MEA
3900T is the MOCA
That 10-9a took me a little to get too. It's a "if this, then that" type chart.
If, you're below our standard minimums (5000rvr), AND CL and HIRL are both working, you can go down to minimum visibility of 500, 500, 500rvr (or whatever is in the left column). If some of those things are not working (listed in the second column) that is the new minimum takeoff visibility. If you don't have any of those items working, but you have Adequate Vis Ref (there's a definition in the Jepp Glossary online somewhere), then that column has your new visibility minimum to take off. It's hard to describe via keyboard.
As far as the altitudes on the Jepp approaches. Those are all minimum altitudes on the profile view.
Good luck!
03-12-2018, 07:47 AM
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Originally Posted by ajkc114
It's my understanding you only fly the ODP when you're not assigned a SID.
11000 is the MEA
3900T is the MOCA
That 10-9a took me a little to get too. It's a "if this, then that" type chart.
If, you're below our standard minimums (5000rvr), AND CL and HIRL are both working, you can go down to minimum visibility of 500, 500, 500rvr (or whatever is in the left column). If some of those things are not working (listed in the second column) that is the new minimum takeoff visibility. If you don't have any of those items working, but you have Adequate Vis Ref (there's a definition in the Jepp Glossary online somewhere), then that column has your new visibility minimum to take off. It's hard to describe via keyboard.
As far as the altitudes on the Jepp approaches. Those are all minimum altitudes on the profile view.
Good luck!
11000 is the MEA
3900T is the MOCA
That 10-9a took me a little to get too. It's a "if this, then that" type chart.
If, you're below our standard minimums (5000rvr), AND CL and HIRL are both working, you can go down to minimum visibility of 500, 500, 500rvr (or whatever is in the left column). If some of those things are not working (listed in the second column) that is the new minimum takeoff visibility. If you don't have any of those items working, but you have Adequate Vis Ref (there's a definition in the Jepp Glossary online somewhere), then that column has your new visibility minimum to take off. It's hard to describe via keyboard.
As far as the altitudes on the Jepp approaches. Those are all minimum altitudes on the profile view.
Good luck!
This is very important for the new STARs Jepp is publishing that use those depictions. An altitude with both a bar above and below is a "hard altitude" formerly denoted by a box like "250 Knots / At 9000ft" . If you have full Jepp access check out the Buono4 (sp?) arrival at KHPN to see how that looks. That being said, it's probably beyond the scope of the interview.
03-12-2018, 10:49 AM
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Originally Posted by WhiteMorpheus
A bar above a number indicates a maximum altitude (ceiling), a bar below indicates a minimum altitude (floor).
This is very important for the new STARs Jepp is publishing that use those depictions. An altitude with both a bar above and below is a "hard altitude" formerly denoted by a box like "250 Knots / At 9000ft" . If you have full Jepp access check out the Buono4 (sp?) arrival at KHPN to see how that looks. That being said, it's probably beyond the scope of the interview.
This is very important for the new STARs Jepp is publishing that use those depictions. An altitude with both a bar above and below is a "hard altitude" formerly denoted by a box like "250 Knots / At 9000ft" . If you have full Jepp access check out the Buono4 (sp?) arrival at KHPN to see how that looks. That being said, it's probably beyond the scope of the interview.
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