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Old 03-21-2017 | 07:20 AM
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Originally Posted by No Land 3
Why do you need EAS for that? That sounds like a very profitable center of commerce at certain times of the year. The private sector will take over when it makes sense to.
Those things are handled by freighters and pipelines. However, you need PEOPLE to produce them and without EAS passenger service, how you going to manage that trick?

I suppose you could make the same argument and justify slashing highway funds. Great idea...let's go back to the good old days when it took a month to drive cross country before Ike discovered the value of Interstate highways.
Old 03-21-2017 | 07:43 AM
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Originally Posted by serthwrmtym
The sad reality is that if EAS does go away (it won't) then it will only make the pilot shortage worse because it will be harder for the low time pilots to reach 1500 hours.
There is no pilot shortage.
Old 03-21-2017 | 08:00 AM
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Originally Posted by Packrat
Ever considered that 5 MILLION lbs of salmon that came out of Kotzebue a couple of years ago? How about the huge fish run out of King Salmon last summer?

EAS assures pax AND freight service to WRG, PSG, YAK, CDV and Kodiak. You may remember that Kodiak hosts a critical Coast Guard base as well.

How about freight service to BRW and SCC? I guess you missed the importance of keeping the oil flowing off the North Slope.

Ignorance is indeed bliss.
Lol really? We need EAS to subsidize Alaskan salmon shipments? Sounds pretty essential to me.
Old 03-21-2017 | 10:29 AM
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Originally Posted by Packrat
Those things are handled by freighters and pipelines. However, you need PEOPLE to produce them and without EAS passenger service, how you going to manage that trick?
As soon as the fracking boom came into being a few years ago, all the major airlines starting greatly adding and increasing flights all over BFE North Dakota and surrounding areas. I flew many flights filled with greasy dudes in Carhartt paying a lot of money to get to what seemed like the ice planet of Hoth in January.

If there is a financially viable reason for air carrier service, it will come. If not, it shouldn't exist.
Old 03-21-2017 | 11:15 AM
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Originally Posted by Winston
As soon as the fracking boom came into being a few years ago, all the major airlines starting greatly adding and increasing flights all over BFE North Dakota and surrounding areas. I flew many flights filled with greasy dudes in Carhartt paying a lot of money to get to what seemed like the ice planet of Hoth in January.

If there is a financially viable reason for air carrier service, it will come. If not, it shouldn't exist.
Im gonna have to agree. If a company wants to operate out of a region, the company is responsible for getting employees and materials to the location. Not uncle sam. No airline service? Oh well I guess the charter guys are going to work today. Just my .02
Old 03-21-2017 | 11:48 AM
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Originally Posted by 3EngineTaxi
There is no pilot shortage.
Right, and if you believe that, then Al Gore has some carbon credits to sell you
Old 03-21-2017 | 11:50 AM
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Originally Posted by GogglesPisano
And this is a bad thing for the pilot profession how, exactly?
Because it will make the pilot shortage worse which will throw the economics of it out of whack. This will cause companies to go under because they can't staff their operations. Also it will hasten the move to automation as a result.


I support elimination of EAS because I see it as corporate welfare, even if I am the beneficiary of it. It's just not right to steal money from one group of people and give it to another.
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Originally Posted by serthwrmtym
Because it will make the pilot shortage worse which will throw the economics of it out of whack. This will cause companies to go under because they can't staff their operations. Also it will hasten the move to automation as a result.


I support elimination of EAS because I see it as corporate welfare, even if I am the beneficiary of it. It's just not right to steal money from one group of people and give it to another.
So im curious. Do you currently meet ATP minimums in any way? Not trying to be a d ic k. Im genuinly curious. If so how long have you held your ATP?
Old 03-21-2017 | 03:43 PM
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Originally Posted by serthwrmtym
Because it will make the pilot shortage worse which will throw the economics of it out of whack. This will cause companies to go under because they can't staff their operations. Also it will hasten the move to automation as a result.
Economics "out of whack?" What exactly does that mean? In my world (planet Earth) when the supply of labor decreases, wages increase. The barriers to entry decrease (airlines will find ab initio programs more cost-effective than they do now.)

Automation is on the way, but still 25-50 years from displacing pilots from 121 carriers. As a pilot (or doctor, lawyer, architect ...) you should actually want a shortage of labor in your field.
Old 03-21-2017 | 04:56 PM
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Originally Posted by GogglesPisano
Economics "out of whack?" What exactly does that mean? In my world (planet Earth) when the supply of labor decreases, wages increase. The barriers to entry decrease (airlines will find ab initio programs more cost-effective than they do now.)
Except that the barriers are being kept artificially high due to regulation.

Originally Posted by GogglesPisano
Automation is on the way, but still 25-50 years from displacing pilots from 121 carriers.
I was mostly referring to 135



Originally Posted by GogglesPisano
As a pilot (or doctor, lawyer, architect ...) you should actually want a shortage of labor in your field.
Yeah, if you're greedy and don't mind others being hurt for your benefit. But if you're a decent human being then you want the market to be as close to equilibrium as possible.
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