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Old 03-21-2017 | 05:11 PM
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In my world (planet Earth) when the supply of labor decreases, wages increase.
True, but it's also true that an increase in wages will shift the demand curve for pilots to the left. Perhaps, fewer pilots flying planes to now-unprofitable destinations; subsitituing larger planes and fewer frequencies; cancelling some service altogether. Be careful what what you predict. During the fuel crunches of the Seventies, DL kept flying fast (M.84 in B727 for example) to avoid hiring something like 300 pilots, fleet-wide. Even speed adjustments, over 3,000 daily departures, adds up.

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Old 03-21-2017 | 07:18 PM
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Originally Posted by serthwrmtym
Except that the barriers are being kept artificially high due to regulation.

I was mostly referring to 135



Yeah, if you're greedy and don't mind others being hurt for your benefit. But if you're a decent human being then you want the market to be as close to equilibrium as possible.
Who exactly is getting hurt with a shortage of pilots? Are the restaurants and stores I frequent being hurt? Is the government hurting with my taxable income? Are online retailers suffering from my larger hobby fund? No, I do not want equilibrium, no one should want equilibrium.
As for your comment about minimums being artificially high, they wouldn't be artificial if it wasn't for brand new pilots willing to work for next to free. Having low time is only temporary. Once you have your hours, you will be thankful for it.
Old 03-21-2017 | 07:38 PM
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Originally Posted by Packrat
Those things are handled by freighters and pipelines. However, you need PEOPLE to produce them and without EAS passenger service, how you going to manage that trick?

I suppose you could make the same argument and justify slashing highway funds. Great idea...let's go back to the good old days when it took a month to drive cross country before Ike discovered the value of Interstate highways.


Your analogy with highways would make more sense if the government was subsidizing empty buses to places that most people don't want to go to. The government (us) are paying for the NAS system just as we have paid for the interstate highways. The infrastructure should be paid for with taxpayer money but not the users.
Old 03-21-2017 | 08:51 PM
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Originally Posted by No Land 3
Who exactly is getting hurt with a shortage of pilots?
Anyone who relies on air service, either passenger or cargo, because their costs will likely increase at least a little.

And investors (which is anyone with a 401k or pension)



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As for your comment about minimums being artificially high, they wouldn't be artificial if it wasn't for brand new pilots willing to work for next to free.
The market should be able to equalize without government intervention. 250 hours worked very well for decades (and most SICs weren't hired that low anyway)
Old 03-21-2017 | 09:17 PM
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Flew EAS into Vernal and Moab, UT from SLC. It was pretty and we flew some tourists into town. I don't know if they would have rented a car and driven if no air service. I do know when we cancelled for Mx or Wx we made up the missed flights on the weekend with no pax just droned back and forth. THAT was a total waste of gov't money.
Old 03-21-2017 | 11:46 PM
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Originally Posted by serthwrmtym
Anyone who relies on air service, either passenger or cargo, because their costs will likely increase at least a little.

And investors (which is anyone with a 401k or pension)



The market should be able to equalize without government intervention. 250 hours worked very well for decades (and most SICs weren't hired that low anyway)
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Old 03-21-2017 | 11:58 PM
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Originally Posted by Packrat
What about towns/villages in Alaska where you can't drive anywhere?
99% aren't EAS.
Old 03-22-2017 | 03:57 AM
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Originally Posted by serthwrmtym
Anyone who relies on air service, either passenger or cargo, because their costs will likely increase at least a little.

And investors (which is anyone with a 401k or pension)
Would you be willing to take a 10% pay cut to help out all those poor people? Maybe 20%? Possibly 50%?

If not, you might just be able to see the error in your thinking.

If so, then please NEVER volunteer for any union work at your air carrier because:

Old 03-22-2017 | 05:25 AM
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Originally Posted by HighFlight
That's not a very good analogy. Roads were around long before airports.
The history of your nations infrastructure isn't so clearly cut on the timeline as you may think, if it interests you.
Old 03-22-2017 | 05:29 AM
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I know of two EAS routes that don't need EAS money anymore as ridership sells out 50 seat jets now that the turboprops are gone. It's not a solution for all routes but as cliche as it is, people don't like props.
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