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Old 03-23-2017 | 06:30 AM
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Originally Posted by BeatNavy
I think most people are talking about lower 48 EAS, which is highly wasteful. Some AK EAS is wasteful, some isn't. I think most people are ok with most AK EAS. Some of it is actually "essential" whereas most lower 48 EAS is "convenient."
If you think EAS is wasteful, look at where it falls on list of wasteful government spending and total dollars spent. Less than $200 million annually for the lower 48, EAS is far down the list and amounts to pennies compared to other wasteful areas. Trump traveling down to Florida every single weekend and his kids traveling all over the world with secret service will cost the tax payers more annually than EAS in the lower 48.
Old 03-23-2017 | 06:32 AM
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Originally Posted by CBreezy
Lack of experience, not training. Every pilot should be about to recover from a stall in his sleep... Literally.
Truth. Thats what building experience is all about. Ingraining these fundamental skills.
Old 03-23-2017 | 06:49 AM
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Originally Posted by Systemized
You can't deny the fact the government is buying tickets on private airlines they are currently subsidizing.

It's kind of like paying tax on your social security money. Why not just receive a smaller tax free check or take a tax credit on other income which nets you the money at the end of the day? The government spends 39 cents for every $100 of revenue. Giving you money to later take a portion right back has a cost.
No, what I'm saying is there are places only accessible by boat or air. EAS is the way their air travel is individually economical. Cutting EAS completely without considering individual cases could have the unintended consequence of limiting the ability to produce necessary resources.

The meat axe approach to economics is hardly ever a good idea.
Old 03-23-2017 | 07:39 AM
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Originally Posted by Systemized
If you think EAS is wasteful, look at where it falls on list of wasteful government spending and total dollars spent. Less than $200 million annually for the lower 48, EAS is far down the list and amounts to pennies compared to other wasteful areas. Trump traveling down to Florida every single weekend and his kids traveling all over the world with secret service will cost the tax payers more annually than EAS in the lower 48.
Just because there is wasteful spending elsewhere doesn't mean other waste should be ignored. We should reduce government spending wherever we can.
Old 03-23-2017 | 07:51 AM
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Originally Posted by GogglesPisano
More diplomatic than I'd be. It looks to me like NMuir is back with a new screen name. Same libertarian talking points.
And the same banhammer fell.
Old 03-23-2017 | 02:39 PM
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Originally Posted by BeatNavy
Just because there is wasteful spending elsewhere doesn't mean other waste should be ignored. We should reduce government spending wherever we can.

Cutting EAS spending won't even dent the budget deficit. Our budget deficit is roughly 3% GDP and DOD spending is 5% GDP and going higher. Last balanced budget had DOD spending at 3.5% GDP and higher taxes. The country will never have a balanced budget with a military build up agenda and history proves so. If we should reduce spending like you want, the most obvious area is DOD followed by social security, cutting EAS spending is chump change.
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Originally Posted by serthwrmtym
Even though pay has quadroupled in recent years there is still a shortage. What you are overlooking is that not everyone chooses their employer based on wage. Not everyone wants the hassle that comes with having the best paying job out there. Just like not every passenger wants to buy the cheapest ticket.


The higher the pay and the higher the QOL, the more existing and new pilots get into the game. This is economics 101.
Old 03-23-2017 | 04:39 PM
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Originally Posted by Systemized
Cutting EAS spending won't even dent the budget deficit. Our budget deficit is roughly 3% GDP and DOD spending is 5% GDP and going higher. Last balanced budget had DOD spending at 3.5% GDP and higher taxes. The country will never have a balanced budget with a military build up agenda and history proves so. If we should reduce spending like you want, the most obvious area is DOD followed by social security, cutting EAS spending is chump change.


So if wasteful spending doesn't dent the budget, we should keep wasting? That makes no sense at all. I'm all for cutting a flat percentage across everything to balance the budget and then going in and cutting things completely out, like EAS, and moving that money to the priorities of that administration.
Old 03-24-2017 | 09:00 AM
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Originally Posted by Nevjets
So if wasteful spending doesn't dent the budget, we should keep wasting? That makes no sense at all. I'm all for cutting a flat percentage across everything to balance the budget and then going in and cutting things completely out, like EAS, and moving that money to the priorities of that administration.


The conversation is about EAS spending. $300 million spent annually is tiny when looking at the $600+ billion annual budget deficit.

We are spending 5% GDP on DOD with a 3% deficit. Germany is spending 2% on DOD and has a budget surplus. DOD is the leading factor to our budget deficit in this country, it's no secret. Social security is second to DOD.

The little areas add up but will never fully balance the budget without going after the biggest budget items.

https://www.cbo.gov/publication/52142
Old 03-24-2017 | 11:32 AM
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Originally Posted by Systemized
The conversation is about EAS spending. $300 million spent annually is tiny when looking at the $600+ billion annual budget deficit.

We are spending 5% GDP on DOD with a 3% deficit. Germany is spending 2% on DOD and has a budget surplus. DOD is the leading factor to our budget deficit in this country, it's no secret. Social security is second to DOD.

The little areas add up but will never fully balance the budget without going after the biggest budget items.

https://www.cbo.gov/publication/52142


When I look at my budget and notice that 2% of my budget deficit is being wasted, I'm going to cut that out as part of the process to balance my budget. It makes absolutely no sense to keep wasting that 2% and find another 100% of my overspending to cut! It makes perfect sense to cut the 2% and find another 98% of what I'm overspending on.

And like I said, I'm all for cutting 10% on EVERYTHING and then going in and COMPLETELY illuminating waste. And after all said and done, we are under budget, divy up that among things like the DoD and other administration priorities.

This all makes sense unless there is some other hidden agenda.
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