New Mesa mins
#11
News flash 1000/100 doesnt make you a pro... 500 of that 1000 or 1200 is sitting in the right seat BSing with you student pilot. You weren't flying... You were along from the ride. Dont bash low time pilots, some of them have better experience than guys with 1200/100...
#12
Just out of curiousity, how is Mesa's 500/100 different from Pinnacle's, Trans State, Express Jet (600/100), Comair, ASA. It doesnt make much sense to me that you want to send it to USA today... That's not news worthy at all..
News flash 1000/100 doesnt make you a pro... 500 of that 1000 or 1200 is sitting in the right seat BSing with you student pilot. You weren't flying... You were along from the ride. Dont bash low time pilots, some of them have better experience than guys with 1200/100...
You suck Ellen... You know I had pitty for everyone bashing on HMP a couple months ago, but now you... All the low time pilots are gonna be bashing you soon... You suck... "I suggest that this get forwarded to USA Today, along with all the other "Reduced" minimums hiring . . .i.e. 850 SKYW, 800 Eagle, 600 XJT, etc . . ." What kind of crazy Sh!t is that
News flash 1000/100 doesnt make you a pro... 500 of that 1000 or 1200 is sitting in the right seat BSing with you student pilot. You weren't flying... You were along from the ride. Dont bash low time pilots, some of them have better experience than guys with 1200/100...
You suck Ellen... You know I had pitty for everyone bashing on HMP a couple months ago, but now you... All the low time pilots are gonna be bashing you soon... You suck... "I suggest that this get forwarded to USA Today, along with all the other "Reduced" minimums hiring . . .i.e. 850 SKYW, 800 Eagle, 600 XJT, etc . . ." What kind of crazy Sh!t is that
Name calling . . . how pathetic. Oh yes, let's add the other airlines too . . . Mine was just a partial list, I am glad to see that you have started to fill in the blanks. And just another note . . 1000/100 doesn't make you a pro either.
Let's look at this another way . . . . How experienced do you think a 15 1/2 year old driver is with his temporary permit? How about a 17 year old driver? A 17 year old has about 500 hours of driving experience.
Would you trust a 17 year old driver behind an 18 wheeler driving cross country through all kinds of weather, road construction, traffic jams,etc. and sharing the road with you?
The country (American Public) would have a cow if they knew an inexperienced 17 year old was driving a 20 ton rig down the interstate. Yet they have no idea that is what is happening at the airlines.
Please feel free to post with your new opinions after you have several thousand hours of flying. I can guarantee that your opinion will differ much more than it does now.
#13
It's not a perfect world. But hours/experience/ratings/background is how things are judged. UPS has 1000 PIC turbine as a min. If you have 800 PIC turbine, are you just as good? You can make the case either way, but you don't meet the stated standard, so it's a moot point.
I'd take a 1000 hour pilot sitting next to me before I'd take a 300 hour pilot. Though you like to preach it, there is no substitute for experience. I'll tell ya right now, the world isn't gonna change for a 19 year old kid who thinks he knows it all. Just give it up.
I'd take a 1000 hour pilot sitting next to me before I'd take a 300 hour pilot. Though you like to preach it, there is no substitute for experience. I'll tell ya right now, the world isn't gonna change for a 19 year old kid who thinks he knows it all. Just give it up.
#14
Name calling . . . how pathetic. Oh yes, let's add the other airlines too . . . Mine was just a partial list, I am glad to see that you have started to fill in the blanks. And just another note . . 1000/100 doesn't make you a pro either.
Let's look at this another way . . . . How experienced do you think a 15 1/2 year old driver is with his temporary permit? How about a 17 year old driver? A 17 year old has about 500 hours of driving experience.
Would you trust a 17 year old driver behind an 18 wheeler driving cross country through all kinds of weather, road construction, traffic jams,etc. and sharing the road with you?
The country (American Public) would have a cow if they knew an inexperienced 17 year old was driving a 20 ton rig down the interstate. Yet they have no idea that is what is happening at the airlines.
Please feel free to post with your new opinions after you have several thousand hours of flying. I can guarantee that your opinion will differ much more than it does now.
Let's look at this another way . . . . How experienced do you think a 15 1/2 year old driver is with his temporary permit? How about a 17 year old driver? A 17 year old has about 500 hours of driving experience.
Would you trust a 17 year old driver behind an 18 wheeler driving cross country through all kinds of weather, road construction, traffic jams,etc. and sharing the road with you?
The country (American Public) would have a cow if they knew an inexperienced 17 year old was driving a 20 ton rig down the interstate. Yet they have no idea that is what is happening at the airlines.
Please feel free to post with your new opinions after you have several thousand hours of flying. I can guarantee that your opinion will differ much more than it does now.
like using the media to drag down low time guys. How stupid!. You logic doesnt make any sense. I'm sure that an extra 2000 hours in my logbook wont make me think to spread the news to USA today. Young pilots already have it bad with the passengers saying stupid sh!t like "are you old enough to fly this little plane" now you want to add to it.. How selfish of you.
Last edited by de727ups; 03-04-2007 at 10:24 PM. Reason: edited to remove personal insult
#15
Well boss I didnt call you any name. You made it, so now you can think stupid stuff
like using the media to drag down low time guys. How stupid!. You logic doesnt make any sense. I'm sure that an extra 2000 hours in my logbook wont make me think to spread the news to USA today. Young pilots already have it bad with the passengers saying stupid sh!t like "are you old enough to fly this little plane" now you want to add to it.. How selfish of you.
like using the media to drag down low time guys. How stupid!. You logic doesnt make any sense. I'm sure that an extra 2000 hours in my logbook wont make me think to spread the news to USA today. Young pilots already have it bad with the passengers saying stupid sh!t like "are you old enough to fly this little plane" now you want to add to it.. How selfish of you.
#16
I couldn't agree more. If 300 hour or even 600 hour pilots are so experienced, than why doesn't Southwest, FedEx , JetBlue, AirTran, Alaska, Continental, Delta, et el hire them? It's because they don't have decision making skills, and lack of decision making skills leads to incidents and accidents.
If the media starts an isssue, it won't change a thing...
if anything, it'll rather be negative on the industry as a WHOLE
300/600hr pilots DONT know it all, and they'll admit it also....
we just want to accelerate our lives other than going into armed forces...
flying right set on a 50 passenger jet isn't the worst thing an airliner can do.....the FO isn't making the decisions, the CA is...and who's that? A 2000+hr pilot....some1 with a lot more experience....what's the low timer really doing...maybe do the radios? Put the gear or flaps in? How much damage can he do?
And for ELLEN'S sake,....if the captain becomes unconscious...an accident waiting to happen...the FO WILL land the plane, and the pax WILL walk away thanking the young good looking stud GREATLY!
Last edited by shanejj; 03-05-2007 at 01:04 AM.
#17
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and has one of the easiest and least stringent interview process in the industry (the interview at XJT was actually shorter/less rigorous than a job interview I attended for a serving job with Fleming's Prime Steakhouse...and no, I am not kidding).I personally think they could do a much better job at screening applicants, but for some reason they choose not to.
Last edited by palgia841; 03-05-2007 at 12:51 AM.
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I couldn't agree more. If 300 hour or even 600 hour pilots are so experienced, than why doesn't Southwest, FedEx , JetBlue, AirTran, Alaska, Continental, Delta, et el hire them? It's because they don't have decision making skills, and lack of decision making skills leads to incidents and accidents.
#19
I thought that the mins at Mesa were always lower than 500...I got an interview there over a year ago with 400 and I know someone else who had around 300 when he got the interview (and took the job), so how is this anything new?
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