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Old 03-25-2007 | 01:24 PM
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Per their ops spec, its legally log-able time. But your correct on the other parts.

Know someone out in Maui working for them, and she really doesn't enjoy it. 3 days a week she is working the ticket counter for minimum wage, and then 3 days a week she gets to sit reserve / fly.
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Old 03-25-2007 | 01:58 PM
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Originally Posted by DMEarc
172- You obviously haven't been around very long...

The problem with Mesa isn't their pay...it's industry standard. The problem is how they treat their pilots.

Pacific Wings' pay is bad, but pilot's I know are treated better.

Sometimes sacrifices have to be made to gain others.
Their hourly rate may look industry standard but their TA is far from.

* 50% deadhead pay
* $1.20 Per Diem (industry lowest, CommutAir and Big Sky pay more )
* Complex cancellation pay that ends up being no cancellation pay
* No daily pay guarantee
* Mandatory JAing
* No max daily duty policy

The bottom line is your total earnings at the end of the year and based upon that they're far from industry average.
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Old 03-25-2007 | 02:15 PM
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Have heard numerous reports from people that have called pertaining their "first officer program" in which you sign some crazy contract and they train you on the caravan then hire you to throw bags and other crap then when your not doing that you get to pick up a couple of legs in the caravan..
You mean like B6 where you sign a 5 year indentured servitude contract, fly a leg then clean the cabin? Sort of like that?

PeoplExpress perfected the "job overlap" system YEARS ago.
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Old 03-25-2007 | 04:03 PM
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You mean like B6 where you sign a 5 year indentured servitude contract, fly a leg then clean the cabin? Sort of like that?
You don't actually have to CLEAN the cabin at mesa, but you do have to sleep in it (instead of a hotel). Actually I heard they got one room for all the cewmembers to share on standups now...

I think everybody at the regionals has helped the FA's with the cabin at some point...VOLUNTARILY. I personally would not take a job where that was a required pilot duty. I guess no B6 for me. darn.
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Old 03-29-2007 | 06:22 PM
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I just talked to a friend of mine who said Mesa called him and offered him a class date in the Beech. He never applied at Mesa, or any other regional. He's doing well as an instructor, building time for now and weighing his options. He told them "no thanks". What is Mesa doing? Searching Airman records and contacting anyone with Commercial Multi? I hear life rafts inflating.
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Old 03-30-2007 | 07:55 AM
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I'll throw a life line to anyone that wants out...
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Old 03-30-2007 | 08:01 AM
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Originally Posted by ImperialxRat
Know someone out in Maui working for them, and she really doesn't enjoy it. 3 days a week she is working the ticket counter for minimum wage, and then 3 days a week she gets to sit reserve / fly.
I don't think even mesa can make you do that. They have in the past used off-duty CRJ 900 CA's as rampers in PHX...but they had to pay them their REGULAR pay to get them to do it They tried to offer ramper pay but there were no takers This is an annual event in PHX..when the temps approach 120F most of the rampers decide it's not just worth it for minimum wage...
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Old 03-30-2007 | 09:41 AM
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Originally Posted by rickair7777
I don't think even mesa can make you do that. They have in the past used off-duty CRJ 900 CA's as rampers in PHX...but they had to pay them their REGULAR pay to get them to do it They tried to offer ramper pay but there were no takers This is an annual event in PHX..when the temps approach 120F most of the rampers decide it's not just worth it for minimum wage...
I think I would have to take them up on that deal. 8 hours pay for 8 hours of work...wouldn't know what to do with myself...And I could go home after work and have some drinks with friends and sleep in my own bed
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Old 03-30-2007 | 12:31 PM
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Originally Posted by rickair7777
You don't actually have to CLEAN the cabin at mesa, but you do have to sleep in it (instead of a hotel). Actually I heard they got one room for all the cewmembers to share on standups now...
Everyone gets their own hotel room. As a new guy, I'll be seeing plenty more of these trips.
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