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Old 08-21-2017 | 05:46 AM
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Originally Posted by tom11011
What might be a good project is to display these numbers on a timeline. This would theoretically tell us whether there is in fact a shortage of pilots or not. If there is, we should be seeing these numbers decrease at a steady rate.
The list at Piedmont is within 50 people ofdoubling since I started.
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Old 08-21-2017 | 05:57 AM
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Originally Posted by Theaveragejoker
The list at Piedmont is within 50 people ofdoubling since I started.
But could most or all of those people have come from another regional airline? ie is it a case of Piedmonts pilot group increasing while another pilot group is decreasing.
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Old 08-21-2017 | 07:42 AM
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Originally Posted by itsmytime
Any idea why they look down on Gulf time so much?
Cargo carriers may be required by USPS contracts to only employ people who have lived in the US for the last five years (does not apply to overseas military of course).

I've also heard rumors of some US ME3 pilots not having much luck getting hired by legacies, not sure why. Maybe just rumor.
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Old 08-21-2017 | 08:05 AM
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Originally Posted by Theaveragejoker
Don't forget military, cargo, corporate, 135, and expat.
Are you suggesting these operations somehow will have no desire to retain their pilots and or attract new hires?
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Old 08-21-2017 | 08:06 AM
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Originally Posted by galaxy flyer
And don't forget it is NOT a static population--grows everyday.

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Just like it loses pilots from that list as well...
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Old 08-21-2017 | 09:04 AM
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Originally Posted by Rahlifer
If you subtract about 3900 or so that are not hireable by a major, that doesn't leave a whole lot to replace he upcoming retirements.
If not this, then how about the top 15% of any regional seniority list is lifers and won't be leaving. So, probably lop off another 2900 or so. Maybe some crossover.

So what, maybe 5000 current regional pilots aren't hireable or don't want to leave.
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Old 08-21-2017 | 09:05 AM
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Originally Posted by rickair7777
I've also heard rumors of some US ME3 pilots not having much luck getting hired by legacies, not sure why. Maybe just rumor.
Its true, as near as I've been able to determine. They are either stuck over there or they have to come back and do a stint at a regional.
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Old 08-21-2017 | 09:23 AM
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Its true, as near as I've been able to determine. They are either stuck over there or they have to come back and do a stint at a regional.
I've heard it as well, just wondering why. The cargo contracts make sense, but I don't understand why the pax wouldn't like heavy international time.
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Old 08-21-2017 | 09:37 AM
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Originally Posted by itsmytime
I've heard it as well, just wondering why. The cargo contracts make sense, but I don't understand why the pax wouldn't like heavy international time.
Honestly, the most analogous thing would be crossing a picket line back in the day.

The ME3 are kind of being painted as "the bad guys" right now especially after the "Our Future Our Fight" thing Delta put out. I suppose that flying for them could be construed as supporting the enemy?

Not trying to offend anyone or start a fight with that comment, its just my two cents on the matter.
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Originally Posted by AnotherWriter
Honestly, the most analogous thing would be crossing a picket line back in the day.

The ME3 are kind of being painted as "the bad guys" right now especially after the "Our Future Our Fight" thing Delta put out. I suppose that flying for them could be construed as supporting the enemy?

Not trying to offend anyone or start a fight with that comment, its just my two cents on the matter.
Soon it won't matter, just as sex changes and dumping soup into soup kitchen bowls won't matter.

I'd rather have a guy with international heavy time and a type over a sex changed tree hugger up front but the HR types don't see it that way.... Yet
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