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Old 03-16-2007 | 07:31 PM
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Originally Posted by LAfrequentflyer
Why not pick up extra trips on those days off? Mentor Boy Scouts on aviation, spend time working with Boys Clubs / Big Brother / Big Sister organizations and develop the next generation of pilots?

I'm passionate about the military. I don't work a second job to make the AF work out for me.

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Those are all options, but there is only so much you can legally fly, and if you still can't pay the bills you need to pickup a second job. Atleast that is how I am interpretating this second job, as a way to make ends meet while your at the bottom of the ladder.
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Old 03-16-2007 | 08:14 PM
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Originally Posted by SkyHigh
I am sure that everyone here wishes you and your friends all the best, but I hope you understand that most will never reach the highs you have mentioned. I wish I was drinking whatever it is that you are because it is difficult to be able to delude myself that much anymore.

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I understand your situation from your posts and some people definitely eat the $hit sandwich many many times in this career but there are success stories. Some people give up (which everyone has their reasons for doing so), but once they do, then their chance is over. You say most won't reach the highs which may be true, but the fact of the matter is is that some people do. If you give up, someone else will be in that place. My point is is that SOMEONE is in that place making decent money, good schedules, etc. Whoever it is, it certainly is not someone who gave up.
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Old 03-16-2007 | 08:21 PM
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Originally Posted by bla bla bla
What I don’t understand is why more pilots are not up in arms more about the state of the industry! Makes me sick. So many are so happy to be making 50k a year. I had a friend quit skyw because he was going to loose his house if he didn’t. Sad. He went back to work running a salvage yard.

Yeah just ignore skyhigh, ignorance is BLISS!
when you think about it: outside of law, medicine, and tech stuff, where else are you gonna make 50'gs? skyhigh, please insert story of police officer. my point: for what we do, we make good money compared to rest of public. skyhigh, please insert text about how much we pay for our ratings( as we haven't heard it enough).
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Old 03-16-2007 | 09:10 PM
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Originally Posted by SkyHigh
I am sure that everyone here wishes you and your friends all the best, but I hope you understand that most will never reach the highs you have mentioned. I wish I was drinking whatever it is that you are because it is difficult to be able to delude myself that much anymore.

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the only thing i am drinking is 100% motivation kool-aid.. its the best!! i know you don't want to delude yourself anymore,, you allowed yourself to fall into the "its to tough and i am not getting anywhere" attitude. As soon as you give up, no one will give you a chance if you don't give it to yourself. like freight puppy said, someone is there, someone is making good money, someone only has to work 13 days a month, why not me? And rest assured if everyone here puts in the time, has a good attitude (that shows), and doesn't give up, all will be where they want to be. Whether it is with pinnacle airlines as a 15 year captain, or moving on to the majors, everyone if they want will get their chance.
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Old 03-16-2007 | 10:43 PM
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Originally Posted by HotMamaPilot
when you think about it: outside of law, medicine, and tech stuff, where else are you gonna make 50'gs? skyhigh, please insert story of police officer. my point: for what we do, we make good money compared to rest of public. skyhigh, please insert text about how much we pay for our ratings( as we haven't heard it enough).
50'g is nothing. You can sell cell phones at the mall and make that. I have a friend who made 120k selling phones. Just talked to a baby formula rep the other day who made 100k plus. I have friends who are STILL pushing 200k with real-estate even in the downturn. The list go's on and on. Just my humble opinion though.
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Old 03-17-2007 | 07:19 AM
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Originally Posted by bla bla bla
50'g is nothing. You can sell cell phones at the mall and make that. I have a friend who made 120k selling phones. Just talked to a baby formula rep the other day who made 100k plus. I have friends who are STILL pushing 200k with real-estate even in the downturn. The list go's on and on. Just my humble opinion though.
Yeah, but all that involves being a salesperson.

I couldn't sell water in a desert.
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Old 03-17-2007 | 07:24 AM
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Originally Posted by LAfrequentflyer
Why not pick up extra trips on those days off? Mentor Boy Scouts on aviation, spend time working with Boys Clubs / Big Brother / Big Sister organizations and develop the next generation of pilots?

I'm passionate about the military. I don't work a second job to make the AF work out for me.

-LAFF
Some of us have hobbies outside of aviation, too...
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Old 03-17-2007 | 08:57 AM
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Originally Posted by bla bla bla
50'g is nothing. You can sell cell phones at the mall and make that. I have a friend who made 120k selling phones. Just talked to a baby formula rep the other day who made 100k plus. I have friends who are STILL pushing 200k with real-estate even in the downturn. The list go's on and on. Just my humble opinion though.
$54,689 is what the average US worker is pulling in a year, with a 4-year degree. These people you mention are one of two things, they are the exception (a small percent of the population) or you made them up.
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Old 03-17-2007 | 08:59 AM
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Originally Posted by Airsupport
Most pilots will not be "stuck in 60-80 range". that is just ignorant....also know 3 guys who fly corporate, are not on call a lot of the time (scheduled out several weeks in advance), and bring in well over 180000....by the way, starting f.o. there is 80000.

...There are SEVERAL captains here who are lifers. They make well into the 100k range by being in either the training department working mon-fri, 8-5, or the line captain who has put in the time and now enjoys 16-18 days off a month,...Or you can go to the majors (my brothers are at southwest 6 year and 4 year f.o.'s making over 130k a year. 16 day min off and enjoying life.)
Your post reminds me of those MLM scams. The first (and practically only thing) the people talk about is how much money you can make and how much time off you can have as an "independent business owner". Hmmmm.

Anyway, I would agree that selling real estate right now would be tough. However, the quotes I've gotten on building my own home have come down almost 50% due to an increase in materials and labor (people are looking for work). The cost of land itself has dropped considerably. In other words, now (IMO) is the time to start building again - just like when the stock market takes a dive. Do you buy or sell? For example I bought $10k worth of funds after the large Feb drop. But that's another discussion.

I still think it's funny that you are poking fun at someone who can operate their own turboprop yet you are a pinnacle FO that makes <$25k/yr.
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Old 03-17-2007 | 09:18 AM
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Originally Posted by SkyHigh
He told me that he was planning to get his multi-engine rating and fly it himself until he found out how little the pilot was getting paid. He said "man, I don't even pay my lowest grunts that little" and went on to brag about how this guy spends the entire day waxing the plane and burning the day away in a cold and damp hangar awaiting the occasional mission.

My friend told me that he simply shoves the pilot into the right seat whenever he feels like taking the helm and scares himself and everyone else as he attempts to fly it at the pilots career peril. He couldn't believe that a college educated "professional" would stoop to a living that even a high school drop out wouldn't accept and then permit such bullying. I told him to have the pilot report to the job site and sweep until needed at the airport.
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yeah..in a couple years that guy will be in my right seat and skyhigh will still be waxing himself...
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