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#31
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Why not pick up extra trips on those days off? Mentor Boy Scouts on aviation, spend time working with Boys Clubs / Big Brother / Big Sister organizations and develop the next generation of pilots?
I'm passionate about the military. I don't work a second job to make the AF work out for me.
-LAFF
I'm passionate about the military. I don't work a second job to make the AF work out for me.
-LAFF
#32
I am sure that everyone here wishes you and your friends all the best, but I hope you understand that most will never reach the highs you have mentioned. I wish I was drinking whatever it is that you are because it is difficult to be able to delude myself that much anymore.
SkyHigh
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I understand your situation from your posts and some people definitely eat the $hit sandwich many many times in this career but there are success stories. Some people give up (which everyone has their reasons for doing so), but once they do, then their chance is over. You say most won't reach the highs which may be true, but the fact of the matter is is that some people do. If you give up, someone else will be in that place. My point is is that SOMEONE is in that place making decent money, good schedules, etc. Whoever it is, it certainly is not someone who gave up.
#33
What I don’t understand is why more pilots are not up in arms more about the state of the industry! Makes me sick. So many are so happy to be making 50k a year. I had a friend quit skyw because he was going to loose his house if he didn’t. Sad. He went back to work running a salvage yard.
Yeah just ignore skyhigh, ignorance is BLISS!
Yeah just ignore skyhigh, ignorance is BLISS!
#34
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From: CRJ
I am sure that everyone here wishes you and your friends all the best, but I hope you understand that most will never reach the highs you have mentioned. I wish I was drinking whatever it is that you are because it is difficult to be able to delude myself that much anymore.
SkyHigh
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#35
when you think about it: outside of law, medicine, and tech stuff, where else are you gonna make 50'gs? skyhigh, please insert story of police officer. my point: for what we do, we make good money compared to rest of public. skyhigh, please insert text about how much we pay for our ratings( as we haven't heard it enough).
#36
50'g is nothing. You can sell cell phones at the mall and make that. I have a friend who made 120k selling phones. Just talked to a baby formula rep the other day who made 100k plus. I have friends who are STILL pushing 200k with real-estate even in the downturn. The list go's on and on. Just my humble opinion though.
I couldn't sell water in a desert.
#37
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Why not pick up extra trips on those days off? Mentor Boy Scouts on aviation, spend time working with Boys Clubs / Big Brother / Big Sister organizations and develop the next generation of pilots?
I'm passionate about the military. I don't work a second job to make the AF work out for me.
-LAFF
I'm passionate about the military. I don't work a second job to make the AF work out for me.
-LAFF
#38
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50'g is nothing. You can sell cell phones at the mall and make that. I have a friend who made 120k selling phones. Just talked to a baby formula rep the other day who made 100k plus. I have friends who are STILL pushing 200k with real-estate even in the downturn. The list go's on and on. Just my humble opinion though.
#39
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Most pilots will not be "stuck in 60-80 range". that is just ignorant....also know 3 guys who fly corporate, are not on call a lot of the time (scheduled out several weeks in advance), and bring in well over 180000....by the way, starting f.o. there is 80000.
...There are SEVERAL captains here who are lifers. They make well into the 100k range by being in either the training department working mon-fri, 8-5, or the line captain who has put in the time and now enjoys 16-18 days off a month,...Or you can go to the majors (my brothers are at southwest 6 year and 4 year f.o.'s making over 130k a year. 16 day min off and enjoying life.)
...There are SEVERAL captains here who are lifers. They make well into the 100k range by being in either the training department working mon-fri, 8-5, or the line captain who has put in the time and now enjoys 16-18 days off a month,...Or you can go to the majors (my brothers are at southwest 6 year and 4 year f.o.'s making over 130k a year. 16 day min off and enjoying life.)
Anyway, I would agree that selling real estate right now would be tough. However, the quotes I've gotten on building my own home have come down almost 50% due to an increase in materials and labor (people are looking for work). The cost of land itself has dropped considerably. In other words, now (IMO) is the time to start building again - just like when the stock market takes a dive. Do you buy or sell? For example I bought $10k worth of funds after the large Feb drop. But that's another discussion.
I still think it's funny that you are poking fun at someone who can operate their own turboprop yet you are a pinnacle FO that makes <$25k/yr.
#40
He told me that he was planning to get his multi-engine rating and fly it himself until he found out how little the pilot was getting paid. He said "man, I don't even pay my lowest grunts that little" and went on to brag about how this guy spends the entire day waxing the plane and burning the day away in a cold and damp hangar awaiting the occasional mission.
My friend told me that he simply shoves the pilot into the right seat whenever he feels like taking the helm and scares himself and everyone else as he attempts to fly it at the pilots career peril. He couldn't believe that a college educated "professional" would stoop to a living that even a high school drop out wouldn't accept and then permit such bullying. I told him to have the pilot report to the job site and sweep until needed at the airport.
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My friend told me that he simply shoves the pilot into the right seat whenever he feels like taking the helm and scares himself and everyone else as he attempts to fly it at the pilots career peril. He couldn't believe that a college educated "professional" would stoop to a living that even a high school drop out wouldn't accept and then permit such bullying. I told him to have the pilot report to the job site and sweep until needed at the airport.
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