Passenger Planes Sit Idle Because No Pilots Want To Fly Them.
#31
SkyWest (United Express, Delta Connection and Midwest feeder): Just lowered their minimums to 850 TT, now pay for training, lodging and supply uniforms
yeah but last i checked skywest min requirements were still 1000tt, 100 multi, and 100 inst. since ellens article says they lowered it to 850tt, either she knows something the rest of the world doesn't,, or a lot of what is written is just opinion and not fact. I always get a little suspicious when there is an obvious falsehood as simple as this.
yeah but last i checked skywest min requirements were still 1000tt, 100 multi, and 100 inst. since ellens article says they lowered it to 850tt, either she knows something the rest of the world doesn't,, or a lot of what is written is just opinion and not fact. I always get a little suspicious when there is an obvious falsehood as simple as this.
#32
No kidding . . .? I never knew that! It's done that way because there has to be a logical place to START the senority based numbering system so you have a place in line when your number is called to upgrade (PROVIDING, you meet the conditions to do so . . . I believe at SKYW it's 2,500 TT and 1,000 Part 121 line experience)
Interviewing and receiving a Conditional Offer of Employment is almost as good as being hired UNLESS you choose not to fulfill the conditions for your employment. . . like the additional 150 hours one needs to pad their log book so one can start ground school, or the ability to pass the FBI's Criminal History Records Check.
In addition, Conditional Offers of Employment are routinely offered in almost ALL businesses, because it offers an OUT for the employer, without any LEGAL ramifications, if they change their mind, whether it's your class start date or if they choose not to hire you at all for whatever reason.
If you accept an Unconditional Offer and the company tries to withdraw the offer, you can sue for breach of contract, and vice versa. That's why it's done this way in case you don't understand.
Interviewing and receiving a Conditional Offer of Employment is almost as good as being hired UNLESS you choose not to fulfill the conditions for your employment. . . like the additional 150 hours one needs to pad their log book so one can start ground school, or the ability to pass the FBI's Criminal History Records Check.
In addition, Conditional Offers of Employment are routinely offered in almost ALL businesses, because it offers an OUT for the employer, without any LEGAL ramifications, if they change their mind, whether it's your class start date or if they choose not to hire you at all for whatever reason.
If you accept an Unconditional Offer and the company tries to withdraw the offer, you can sue for breach of contract, and vice versa. That's why it's done this way in case you don't understand.
#33
In addition, Conditional Offers of Employment are routinely offered in almost ALL businesses, because it offers an OUT for the employer, without any LEGAL ramifications, if they change their mind, whether it's your class start date or if they choose not to hire you at all for whatever reason.
If you accept an Unconditional Offer and the company tries to withdraw the offer, you can sue for breach of contract, and vice versa. That's why it's done this way in case you don't understand.
If you accept an Unconditional Offer and the company tries to withdraw the offer, you can sue for breach of contract, and vice versa. That's why it's done this way in case you don't understand.
Eagle used to issue them so that they could legally perform their medical exam...but you also still had to pass their "captain review board" which could revoke your offer for any reason or no reason.
Also if the company decides to stop hiring, that conditional offer is worthless...they are not obligated to hire you, and you do not have a seniority number.
#34
BS. A conditional offer is a worthless POS that simply gives the company the legal right to do certain things such as background checks.
Eagle used to issue them so that they could legally perform their medical exam...but you also still had to pass their "captain review board" which could revoke your offer for any reason or no reason.
Also if the company decides to stop hiring, that conditional offer is worthless...they are not obligated to hire you, and you do not have a seniority number.
Eagle used to issue them so that they could legally perform their medical exam...but you also still had to pass their "captain review board" which could revoke your offer for any reason or no reason.
Also if the company decides to stop hiring, that conditional offer is worthless...they are not obligated to hire you, and you do not have a seniority number.
#35
This is too long and for some reason reminds of that woman that makes the videos about pinnacle pilots striking while washing her baby in the sink.
#36
Being a CA requires a quiet calm. The ability to make the right decision and or say the right thing when needed, and to know when not to say anything. With a comment like the one above, you indicate to me that you could potentially escalate a harmless situation with a passenger or crew member to something more substantial, one that could delay flights, harm individuals and even require outside assistance.
Good luck in your upgrade when it comes around. I hope you pass it.
#37
Just out of curiosity, do you ever email your posts to airline management or anywhere else? It seems if you wanted to raise public awareness about low pilot pay that you would post somewhere other than a pilot forum. Just wondering!
#38
Quite frankly JetJock16, your comments are childish and derogatory. You say that you are only 70+ senority numbers and a few hundred hours from upgrading to CA on the CRJ for SkyWest; yet your professionalism, demeanor and personal skills indicate to me that you are not even remotely ready to perform the duties or handle the responsibilities of a CRJ CA for a Part 121 Airline, especially SkyWest. If I were SkyWest, I would be embarrased to have you as a CA.
Being a CA requires a quiet calm. The ability to make the right decision and or say the right thing when needed, and to know when not to say anything. With a comment like the one above, you indicate to me that you could potentially escalate a harmless situation with a passenger or crew member to something more substantial, one that could delay flights, harm individuals and even require outside assistance.
Good luck in your upgrade when it comes around. I hope you pass it.
Being a CA requires a quiet calm. The ability to make the right decision and or say the right thing when needed, and to know when not to say anything. With a comment like the one above, you indicate to me that you could potentially escalate a harmless situation with a passenger or crew member to something more substantial, one that could delay flights, harm individuals and even require outside assistance.
Good luck in your upgrade when it comes around. I hope you pass it.
Apparently I've hit a sore spot with you, wish you had chosen a different career?
Last edited by JetJock16; 03-30-2007 at 11:43 AM.
#39
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Quite frankly JetJock16, your comments are childish and derogatory. You say that you are only 70+ senority numbers and a few hundred hours from upgrading to CA on the CRJ for SkyWest; yet your professionalism, demeanor and personal skills indicate to me that you are not even remotely ready to perform the duties or handle the responsibilities of a CRJ CA for a Part 121 Airline, especially SkyWest. If I were SkyWest, I would be embarrased to have you as a CA.
Being a CA requires a quiet calm. The ability to make the right decision and or say the right thing when needed, and to know when not to say anything. With a comment like the one above, you indicate to me that you could potentially escalate a harmless situation with a passenger or crew member to something more substantial, one that could delay flights, harm individuals and even require outside assistance.
Good luck in your upgrade when it comes around. I hope you pass it.
Being a CA requires a quiet calm. The ability to make the right decision and or say the right thing when needed, and to know when not to say anything. With a comment like the one above, you indicate to me that you could potentially escalate a harmless situation with a passenger or crew member to something more substantial, one that could delay flights, harm individuals and even require outside assistance.
Good luck in your upgrade when it comes around. I hope you pass it.
#40
ELLEN & JETJOCK16
You're both smart, experienced and articulate.
I recommend you save your energy and raging hormone posts for people like SKYHIGH.
Otherwise the expression "Regional pilots eat their dead." gets perpetuated.
You're both smart, experienced and articulate.
I recommend you save your energy and raging hormone posts for people like SKYHIGH.
Otherwise the expression "Regional pilots eat their dead." gets perpetuated.
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