Passenger Planes Sit Idle Because No Pilots Want To Fly Them.
03-30-2007, 07:03 AM
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Originally Posted by XJPILOT1
Not with 7 Starbuck Ventis in ya!!!!!! 
03-30-2007, 08:23 AM
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Originally Posted by Ftrooppilot
ELLEN & JETJOCK16
You're both smart, experienced and articulate.
I recommend you save your energy and raging hormone posts for people like SKYHIGH.
Otherwise the expression "Regional pilots eat their dead." gets perpetuated.
You're both smart, experienced and articulate.
I recommend you save your energy and raging hormone posts for people like SKYHIGH.
Otherwise the expression "Regional pilots eat their dead." gets perpetuated.
If one little comment about her career will set her off, what is she expecting from airline pilots when she comes in here an insults us. Grow up Ellen! I don’t need to be told how to behave from someone with no airline experience and loves to stereotype others.
http://www.airlinepilotforums.com/showthread.php?t=6541
I just wonder how being a Vermiculturalist qualifies her to dish out advise about our profession? For those of you who don't want to spend the time to look up what a Vermiculturalist is, she's an earthworm farmer. Thus the grounds (no pun intended) for my comment about the life cycle of an earthworm.
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03-30-2007, 08:40 AM
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Ellen doesnt have airline expererience?
03-30-2007, 08:54 AM
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Originally Posted by DMEarc
Ellen doesnt have airline expererience?
Who cares! What she wrote was dead on! Pretty damn good for someone not in the airlines. And sources? Who cares about sources! Even if she wrote that from the top of her head it doesn't change the fact that everything she wrote is true. She's a genius if she did write it from the top of her head and deserves to be hoisted on our shoulders. I personally am reconsidering applying to the RJ's after reading her article. I've heard the same stuff from my dad and Ellen only catalizes what he has told me. I'm going to fly DC-3's at LGB for a couple of years and then go seek a job overseas (oversees LOL). Thanks for writing the article Ellen! Get that printed in the papers, ASAP!
03-30-2007, 09:19 AM
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Originally Posted by DMEarc
Ellen doesnt have airline expererience?
JetJock16 implies one must be or have been an airline pilot to contribute on this forum; many incuding myself are disqualified. The Term airline needs to be placed in the context of "AVIATION.' It's a big field !
Ellen comments on a very broad range of aviation issues - stock prices, aviation and airline management, hiring practices, aircraft types and performance characteristics, approach and airfield requirements, linear regression analysis, etc., etc. That's a lot of knowledge for a "worm farmer." In fact I would say Ellen has a more comprehensive knowledge of the aviation industry then the majority of forum members. Opinionated yes- but then we all are.
I'll make a guess. Ellen is a ATP Rated male associate professor teaching air carrier management at UND.
03-30-2007, 09:44 AM
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Whether Ellen's an airline pilot or not, the article is pretty well done. The references to GA make me think it might be AOPA or something like that. I'll keep my eyes open for it. Ellen's quick link to the ATP reduced mins page at Skywest make me think she (he) [it] knows a bit what they are talkin' about, or knows somebody who does. You can argue about the word "hired" all day long. It's a minor point but pulling up the ATP page shows some knowledge of what's going on in the biz.
If you want to debate the article, Skywest reduced mins, or the price of tea in China, it looks better if it's all done respectfully and without the name calling.
And JetJock, if you're gonna apologise in bold, don't tell Ellen to "grow up" in the next paragraph. It doesn't make you look very sincere.
If you want to debate the article, Skywest reduced mins, or the price of tea in China, it looks better if it's all done respectfully and without the name calling.
And JetJock, if you're gonna apologise in bold, don't tell Ellen to "grow up" in the next paragraph. It doesn't make you look very sincere.
03-30-2007, 09:51 AM
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i dont think their have ever been an easier time to become a pilot
03-30-2007, 09:51 AM
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"JetJock16 implies one must be or have been an airline pilot to contribute on this forum"
There is some truth to that. Certain posters who aren't professional pilots have been locked out of access to certain forums. This was only after said posters reached a "problem causing" threshold with the admins. If a poster at the "regional fourms" isn't a airline pilot, but post's respectfully and plays somewhat nice, they will stay off the admins radar and it won't be a problem.
There is some truth to that. Certain posters who aren't professional pilots have been locked out of access to certain forums. This was only after said posters reached a "problem causing" threshold with the admins. If a poster at the "regional fourms" isn't a airline pilot, but post's respectfully and plays somewhat nice, they will stay off the admins radar and it won't be a problem.
03-30-2007, 09:56 AM
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Originally Posted by threegreen
i dont think their have ever been an easier time to become a pilot
Regional pay, if principles of economics apply, will go up. Now we just need to get CRJ900's and EMB 190's off regional property.
03-30-2007, 10:33 AM
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I agree about the 1000 and 190, if anything those ACs should be replacing old planes (ie dc9) and the pay should stay at what dc9 pay or what ever AC they are replacing.
the way i see it is that pilots (cant speak for everyone, speaking for myself) realizing that we are needed, and will refuse to have a job that pays lower then it should. You are not going to see me flying 100 passengers for and make $50/hr. thats a freakin joke and should be against the law.
the way i see it is that pilots (cant speak for everyone, speaking for myself) realizing that we are needed, and will refuse to have a job that pays lower then it should. You are not going to see me flying 100 passengers for and make $50/hr. thats a freakin joke and should be against the law.
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