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Old 04-20-2007, 10:08 AM
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Today was my first day of IOE. Besides being new at the game all went pretty well, toward the end of the day I felt somewhat confident about what was taking place up there. Although, it went well, I felt 30 miles behind the aircraft, especially on landing. My approach and landing were out of what the profile calls for and it seems like learning to land all over, the feeling is comprable to when you first started landing when you got your PPL, overwhelming... Any pointers for IOE and how to make it all come together?

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Originally Posted by alexk1980 View Post
Today was my first day of IOE. Besides being new at the game all went pretty well, toward the end of the day I felt somewhat confident about what was taking place up there. Although, it went well, I felt 30 miles behind the aircraft, especially on landing. My approach and landing were out of what the profile calls for and it seems like learning to land all over, the feeling is comprable to when you first started landing when you got your PPL, overwhelming... Any pointers for IOE and how to make it all come together?

There's only so much you can do during OE, the rest comes with time. Learning a transport category aircraft is no easy task, the best thing you can do on and off OE is ask for input. Learn as much as you can from the captains. One thing that helped me tremendously with the landings was "ghosting" the Captains when it was their landing. No one ever had a problem with it, and it really helped to get the feel of it.

After a while, and because of repetition it will become second nature...just give it time.
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Better learn to land the plane before you get to PQI, hurry up and get your ass up here.
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Sometimes when I start hammin stuff up and can't figure out why, which is pretty much always, I go back to the basics & that's usually where ya find the brain-fart. (think - steep ta medium ta shallow/pitch, power, trim/Airplane Flying Handbook type stuff)

Stick to your experience & what ya know - it should work, that's why it got you your certificates & your job

Always be thinkin 'bout what's next, & then next, & then next...

Don't get discouraged, just learn from everything

Watch real closely anytime someone else is doing anything (power settings, pitch settings, timing for configuration changes, etc...)

Ask questions - which you already are doing so BRAVO, keep at it & eventually you'll be fine

It's still 'riding a bike' it's just a different 'bike' & after a while, when you've got it all figured out & can fly the thing up a gnats a$$, you'll look back at this and laugh .......... then on your next leg you'll brain-fart it all, make 8 people puke, & set off the ELT on landing

where are ya flying IOE out of? what plane?
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Old 04-20-2007, 12:00 PM
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Alexk1980,

These guys have put a lot of good advice on here. I just finished the second IOE of my career, and these guys are right on. You'll be suprised how much more ahead of the game you are on your second day. With that comes confidence, with confidence comes the start of getting ti where you feel really comfortable with the plane. Next thing you know it will all be repetitious line flying. Just keep the good eager attitude.

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You guys are a ton of help, thanks!! I felt like I was a retard after coming in to land today! Everything else went suprisingly smooth. I am doing my IOE out of Columbus, Oh and will be based in maine. BTW, Too Tall are you PQI???? I want to learn it all, it seems like ground school knowledge is just out the door (sigh)!
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Originally Posted by alexk1980 View Post
You guys are a ton of help, thanks!! I felt like I was a retard after coming in to land today! Everything else went suprisingly smooth. I am doing my IOE out of Columbus, Oh and will be based in maine. BTW, Too Tall are you PQI???? I want to learn it all, it seems like ground school knowledge is just out the door (sigh)!
That bump you hear when you land is actually the sound of you catching up to the airplane. We've all been there. IOE is an experience and is usually fun. You'll learn the rest on the line...have fun!
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you doing your IOE with Bruce?
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Yah Bruce is the one, know him?
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Old 04-20-2007, 03:49 PM
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he did min almost 2 yrs ago up in pvd. good guy, tough, he will push you. good luck, and learn a lot
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