Go Back  Airline Pilot Central Forums > Airline Pilot Forums > Regional
What the recruiter's won't tell you >

What the recruiter's won't tell you

Search

Notices
Regional Regional Airlines

What the recruiter's won't tell you

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 04-01-2019 | 12:56 PM
  #21  
rickair7777's Avatar
Prime Minister/Moderator
Veteran: Navy
 
Joined: Jan 2006
Posts: 45,127
Likes: 796
From: Engines Turn or People Swim
Default

Originally Posted by FlyinLion
How much time do you guys have to report if you are called in while on reserve?
It's typically 2 hours, sometimes 3 hours in major metro areas, or with co-domiciles.

Some majors specify "as quickly as reasonably possible" which gives some leeway for traffic.
Reply
Old 04-01-2019 | 01:14 PM
  #22  
Line Holder
 
Joined: Mar 2019
Posts: 99
Likes: 0
Default

DEC questions.
A few websites say 135 pic time qualifies for DEC....but an * is listed next to the statement. Anyone know the specifics or the reg to reference if 135 time can be counted towards 1000 121 hrs.....? Specifically envoy, but I have seen it on a few others also....
Reply
Old 04-01-2019 | 01:35 PM
  #23  
Gets Weekends Off
 
Joined: Jul 2017
Posts: 1,729
Likes: 0
Default

Originally Posted by cashewchop
DEC questions.
A few websites say 135 pic time qualifies for DEC....but an * is listed next to the statement. Anyone know the specifics or the reg to reference if 135 time can be counted towards 1000 121 hrs.....? Specifically envoy, but I have seen it on a few others also....
Read 121.436 it spells out what does and doesn’t count. You will have to determine whether your time meets the requirements listed.
Reply
Old 04-01-2019 | 01:47 PM
  #24  
Gets Weekends Off
 
Joined: Mar 2005
Posts: 1,888
Likes: 0
Default

Originally Posted by FlyinLion
How much time do you guys have to report if you are called in while on reserve?
Some have long call (12 hours), and short call (2-3 hours depending on where you are based). A few such as Envoy have airport reserve.
Reply
Old 04-01-2019 | 03:20 PM
  #25  
Line Holder
 
Joined: Dec 2018
Posts: 33
Likes: 0
Default

I live in NE PA, so in reasonable traffic, it's a 2-hour drive for me to PHL and EWR and 2.5 to JFK and LGA. Being able to stay close to home and office while on reserve would be a big factor in the decision to make the career change, that's why I was curious about the time to report. Thanks hawk and rick.
Reply
Old 04-01-2019 | 04:49 PM
  #26  
In a land of unicorns
 
Joined: Apr 2014
Posts: 7,072
Likes: 102
From: Whale FO
Default

Originally Posted by FlyinLion
I live in NE PA, so in reasonable traffic, it's a 2-hour drive for me to PHL and EWR and 2.5 to JFK and LGA. Being able to stay close to home and office while on reserve would be a big factor in the decision to make the career change, that's why I was curious about the time to report. Thanks hawk and rick.
In NYC base, Envoy is 3 hours short call. 2 hours at other bases.
Airport reserve doesn't happen often, thankfully.
Reply
Old 04-01-2019 | 04:54 PM
  #27  
Gets Weekends Off
 
Joined: Jul 2017
Posts: 1,729
Likes: 0
Default

Originally Posted by dera
In NYC base, Envoy is 3 hours short call. 2 hours at other bases.
Airport reserve doesn't happen often, thankfully.
Except for the DEC or junior FO reserve graveyard where standby/airport reserve is almost a guarantee
Reply
Old 04-01-2019 | 06:16 PM
  #28  
In a land of unicorns
 
Joined: Apr 2014
Posts: 7,072
Likes: 102
From: Whale FO
Default

Originally Posted by havick206
Except for the DEC or junior FO reserve graveyard where standby/airport reserve is almost a guarantee
DEC's, yeah your QOL will suck.

175 FO's, not even a month of constant airport reserve. Past 6 months, most new hires have been given 175.

145, go to ORD if you don't want airport reserve. DFW list has no movement so avoid that.
Airport reserve can be a good choice for commuters.

So, for most new hires over the past 6 months, airport reserve is a very short experience.
Reply
Old 04-02-2019 | 02:26 PM
  #29  
ESQ702's Avatar
Fly or Die
 
Joined: Jan 2019
Posts: 502
Likes: 0
Default

Originally Posted by AU MD FLYER
I'm not with a regional carrier anymore, but I believe the following is correct:

DEC: Direct Entry Captain

CQF: Captain Qualified First Officer

Someone please clarify if I am wrong...

AU
You, sir, are a gentleman and a scholar...
Reply
Old 04-03-2019 | 06:47 AM
  #30  
Gets Weekends Off
 
Joined: Aug 2017
Posts: 344
Likes: 0
Default

Originally Posted by FlyinLion
I live in NE PA, so in reasonable traffic, it's a 2-hour drive for me to PHL and EWR and 2.5 to JFK and LGA. Being able to stay close to home and office while on reserve would be a big factor in the decision to make the career change, that's why I was curious about the time to report. Thanks hawk and rick.
Remember that the callout time means the time by which you must be at the gate. If you are a two hour drive to the airport, that's not going to work since you still need to catch a bus to the terminal from the employee lot (at EWR that's 10-15 min, depending on whether you catch it at the right time), get through security (2 min KCM, potentially 10+ if you're randomed), and walk to the gate (10+ minutes if you're stuck at the far end of the terminal and have to take yet another bus to get to an aircraft on a stand as opposed to a jetbridge.

Airport reserve gets a lot of cr@p on this board, but I found it easier than short call. To me airport reserve is a lot like a regular trip on the line or long call. You're given 12+ hours notice so you can plan to leave home as early as the current traffic conditions require (3+ hours if needed in other words). The other perks of airport reserve, at least at my company:
  • I'm paid per diem even in base. It's not much but it does pay for tolls and a lunch...though I tend to bring my own.
  • FDP begins when I show up at the airport. If doing airport reserve that means that first 8 hours gets you 8 hours into your FDP. On short call, If the call comes late into your RAP and you've been up 10+ hours already, that could result in flying late and sets you up for a fatigue event.
  • Our airport reserves are used pretty much every day. I noticed that when I was on short call I never flew because the company pulled from airport reserves first. Since most people on reserve are new and need flight time to consolidate it's better to fly than not, since it avoids another jeopardy event (a checkride).
Reply
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
in2deep
Envoy Airlines
10
12-12-2017 08:25 PM
Hou757
PSA Airlines
34
09-12-2017 07:25 PM
MartinBishop
Career Questions
6
07-19-2016 07:33 PM
BizPilot
Alaska
4
01-31-2016 02:24 PM
LAfrequentflyer
Hangar Talk
2
10-10-2005 03:25 PM

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On



Your Privacy Choices