CommutAir vs ExpressJet vs Republic Safety
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As a fellow nervous traveler, I try to find information on this topic too. I'm usually laughed at by pilots or at least reassured that flying is extremely safe. And like, yeah, I know that there's only been one fatality in commercial aviation in the US in the last 10 years. Nor have the E145 or E175 seen any fatal accidents. But as others have said, safety is more nuanced than the total number of fatalities. My main concern is poor maintenance, as mechanics seem to be criminally underpaid ($16 per hour?!) at most regionals, especially considering the complexity and importance of the job.
Consider the following Indeed.com review from a former Envoy mechanic:
Or perhaps this quote from a former Republic mechanic:
And of course, Envoy and Republic are *good* companies. I hate to imagine the standards at some of the more questionable regionals.
Honest question - what should passengers make of comments like this? Disgruntled employee? Problem with safety culture at Envoy? Bad management at this particular hangar? What happens when maintenance is lacking because management wants to save a few bucks? Does the FAA actually have the capacity to crack down on all this stuff, or do they only have time to go after the worst offenders?
Consider the following Indeed.com review from a former Envoy mechanic:
Or perhaps this quote from a former Republic mechanic:
And of course, Envoy and Republic are *good* companies. I hate to imagine the standards at some of the more questionable regionals.
Honest question - what should passengers make of comments like this? Disgruntled employee? Problem with safety culture at Envoy? Bad management at this particular hangar? What happens when maintenance is lacking because management wants to save a few bucks? Does the FAA actually have the capacity to crack down on all this stuff, or do they only have time to go after the worst offenders?
Given Boeing can cut corners like in 738 Max case, shouldnt we keep pay scale better in this reality?
Of course, all of these are from passenger perspective.
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Process is important. Process delivers outcomes. But the outcome stands by itself. No form of transportation is safer than US 121.
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The Concorde was the safest airline type then world had ever seen. In a few seconds it went from the safest type in history to the most dangerous. Turns out it had systemic problems all along, just took time for odds to catch up to them.
Processes and systems are what guarantee safety over the long term, not yesterday's performance. I've lived through a few regional cycles, and we entering another cycle of rapid attrition, hiring, and upgrade at the regionals... there is no way that will not be a factor. The only mitigation is that there's probably not going to be a lot of regional growth (mature scope).
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That's a good trend, but not a guarantee of safety.
The Concorde was the safest airline type then world had ever seen. In a few seconds it went from the safest type in history to the most dangerous. Turns out it had systemic problems all along, just took time for odds to catch up to them.
Processes and systems are what guarantee safety over the long term, not yesterday's performance. I've lived through a few regional cycles, and we entering another cycle of rapid attrition, hiring, and upgrade at the regionals... there is no way that will not be a factor. The only mitigation is that there's probably not going to be a lot of regional growth (mature scope).
The Concorde was the safest airline type then world had ever seen. In a few seconds it went from the safest type in history to the most dangerous. Turns out it had systemic problems all along, just took time for odds to catch up to them.
Processes and systems are what guarantee safety over the long term, not yesterday's performance. I've lived through a few regional cycles, and we entering another cycle of rapid attrition, hiring, and upgrade at the regionals... there is no way that will not be a factor. The only mitigation is that there's probably not going to be a lot of regional growth (mature scope).
If statistics is of any help (1 crash over 10 years in US), knock the wood and hope it will never happen, but statistics says it will happen for sure (probably sooner as it has not for 10 years)
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Concorde total fleet hours was on the order of 250,000. Too small a denominator to be relevant. (https://www.heritageconcorde.com/airframe-detail)
Roughly 40 million regional hours the last 10 years, 0 fatalities.
https://cdn.ymaws.com/www.raa.org/re...Statistics.png
The average person dies every 700,000 hours. What more do you want?
Roughly 40 million regional hours the last 10 years, 0 fatalities.
https://cdn.ymaws.com/www.raa.org/re...Statistics.png
The average person dies every 700,000 hours. What more do you want?
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