If a decade ago, FO earns less than pizza delivery boy, then I would guess nowadays FO earns less than uber driver. This is a real concern.

 

Except in in Singapore here QF spent more to repair the 747 that run off the runway than it was just to buy a new aircraft. Purely an attempt to keep the stats as never losing a passenger aircraft.

 

If I can make 85k+ as an uber driver I’d be impressed.

 

Yes, that is exactly what I am saying. The point of this is not to kill people. At a high enough n, not killing people = safety. This isn't a religion.

It's ridiculous to say "oh well, you did it 40 million times and nothing bad happened, but what about if you do it 4 BILLION times then. What about that? " 40 million departures is a non-trivial fraction of all airline departures ever. US 121 is safe. Barring evidence otherwise, that isn't changing. Arguing about how many angels can dance on a QRH doesn't make airline crash deaths go negative.

 

Obviously, we are not going to agree. I’ll just end by saying that the person who said that statistics are backwards looking is correct. Like I said, stats are the best and easiest way to measure safety. But statistics are not what makes your flight safe. Your decisions are what makes your flight safe. The stats are the product of that. In other words, flying isn’t safe because there wasn’t any accidents in the last 40 million hours. It’s the other way around, flying is safe therefore there have been 40 million hours of no accidents.

The way you guys are looking at safety is what has come to be known as outcome based safety. It’s an outdated way at looking at safety. The contemporary way at looking at safety is that safety is the mitigation and managing of risks. Stats are just the easiest way to measure the product of safety. But it’s not the best way. This is the whole purpose of LOSAs. That is the granular way of measuring safety in a way that better quantifies pilots’ decisions, adherence to procedures/policies, human factors, knowledge, skills, etc. I’ll tell you, I really am surprised that not all airline pilots have been trained to look at safety this way.

 

I don't know why this thread is so complicated, just answer the OP's question. Expressjet and Republic both have good training, maintenance, and overall safety cultures. On the other hand, Commutair is notorious for poor training and maintenance, and practically destroyed a perfectly flyable E145 by crashing it into the snow just 5 weeks ago.

/thread

 

Thank you for your comments.

I actually like how folks are discussing and expanding this subject. I happen to be familiar with above 3 regional carriers. That is why I asked the specific question originally.

Overall safety discussion is very interesting subject to me given some participants here are working for airlines and pilots themselves. Processes, rules and training can make a huge difference in terms of flight safety, we already saw that in recent 737 max case.

I do appreciate all comments from different perspectives.

 

If I can paraphrase your comments:

Processes, trainings, rules and regulations => making flight safe => stats look good => more folks feel safe and fly

Of course I will not say because most people in US feel safe to take flight, that is why they our airlines are so safe. That is not really logical to me.

 

It turned into the exact ****show that I thought it would the second this idiotic thread was created.

 

I don’t think it could be anyone other than Jerry W