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07-13-2019, 10:34 AM
#11
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Originally Posted by Charlesblack
What about promoting to a major? Does compass offer any advantages? Or is it better to go somewhere with a flow to AA?
The baby boomer retirement wave at the majors has already started. It will peak in four to five years. Anyone wanting to work in this industry should be trying to get hired at a major before that peak occurs.
I had job offers from Compass, Skywest, and Horizon. I had ALWAYS wanted to work for Horizon, but had I taken a job with them (as a friend of mine did) I would likely have the same 450 TSIC hours he has right now rather than just short of 900 and getting ready to upgrade. Another friend took the Skywest route and sat reserve in LaGuardia for five or six months. Both of these guys are good guys with prior 135 time but both are over a year away from STARTING to get the 1000 hours of 121 TPIC that opens doors for interviews at a major.
I don’t know your numbers or your background but I would suggest you look for employment somewhere that will do what it takes to get you 1000 121 TPIC in - at most - four years. Whether that is Compass at LAX or PHX, an OO CRJ at FAT or even working for Mesa
with crap pay and working rules, screwing around with someone who will minimally fly you is not a great option. The lower your numbers, the worse the option it is.
07-13-2019, 11:08 AM
#12
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Originally Posted by Excargodog
I had job offers from Compass, Skywest, and Horizon. I had ALWAYS wanted to work for Horizon, but had I taken a job with them (as a friend of mine did) I would likely have the same 450 TSIC hours he has right now rather than just short of 900 and getting ready to upgrade.
07-13-2019, 12:02 PM
#13
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Originally Posted by Excargodog
Keep in mind too that where you live (not where you are domiciled) determines your state tax rate, as long as you do less than 51% of your flying in one state. And you might be at a major for a LONG time before you are senior enough to bid and hold your desired domicile.
A top tier Delta or United pilot living in California will annually pay $35-38K in state income taxes. Living in one of the seven states with no income tax or the two states that don’t tax wages, can make that much of a difference annually at the end of your career.
https://smartasset.com/taxes/states-with-no-income-tax
Commuting from a state with a lower (or no) tax rate might be a reasonable option. Especially if it’s a reliably easy single leg commute.
https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/micr...t-income-taxes
A top tier Delta or United pilot living in California will annually pay $35-38K in state income taxes. Living in one of the seven states with no income tax or the two states that don’t tax wages, can make that much of a difference annually at the end of your career.
https://smartasset.com/taxes/states-with-no-income-tax
Commuting from a state with a lower (or no) tax rate might be a reasonable option. Especially if it’s a reliably easy single leg commute.
https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/micr...t-income-taxes
07-13-2019, 12:04 PM
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Originally Posted by Excargodog
PERSONAL OPINION, YMMV:
The baby boomer retirement wave at the majors has already started. It will peak in four to five years. Anyone wanting to work in this industry should be trying to get hired at a major before that peak occurs.
I had job offers from Compass, Skywest, and Horizon. I had ALWAYS wanted to work for Horizon, but had I taken a job with them (as a friend of mine did) I would likely have the same 450 TSIC hours he has right now rather than just short of 900 and getting ready to upgrade. Another friend took the Skywest route and sat reserve in LaGuardia for five or six months. Both of these guys are good guys with prior 135 time but both are over a year away from STARTING to get the 1000 hours of 121 TPIC that opens doors for interviews at a major.
I don’t know your numbers or your background but I would suggest you look for employment somewhere that will do what it takes to get you 1000 121 TPIC in - at most - four years. Whether that is Compass at LAX or PHX, an OO CRJ at FAT or even working for Mesa with crap pay and working rules, screwing around with someone who will minimally fly you is not a great option. The lower your numbers, the worse the option it is.
The baby boomer retirement wave at the majors has already started. It will peak in four to five years. Anyone wanting to work in this industry should be trying to get hired at a major before that peak occurs.
I had job offers from Compass, Skywest, and Horizon. I had ALWAYS wanted to work for Horizon, but had I taken a job with them (as a friend of mine did) I would likely have the same 450 TSIC hours he has right now rather than just short of 900 and getting ready to upgrade. Another friend took the Skywest route and sat reserve in LaGuardia for five or six months. Both of these guys are good guys with prior 135 time but both are over a year away from STARTING to get the 1000 hours of 121 TPIC that opens doors for interviews at a major.
I don’t know your numbers or your background but I would suggest you look for employment somewhere that will do what it takes to get you 1000 121 TPIC in - at most - four years. Whether that is Compass at LAX or PHX, an OO CRJ at FAT or even working for Mesa
with crap pay and working rules, screwing around with someone who will minimally fly you is not a great option. The lower your numbers, the worse the option it is.That being said you will move up to higher spots in your regional and will be easier to upgrade. Or at least I'd think so.
07-13-2019, 01:19 PM
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Originally Posted by Charlesblack
Well, but if you're domiciled in California, then in theory you live in California and have to pay taxes there. Even if you're based in Dallas for instance? Right?
07-13-2019, 01:59 PM
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Originally Posted by Charlesblack
Also, I'm not a fan of moving cities every few years so if I was to live in LA or Miami I could still work for major airlines living there in the future.
Save the high end coastal living for after you get to a major. Trust me, you don't want to live in Miami on less than 100k/year anyway.
07-13-2019, 05:35 PM
#17
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Unrelated to the California discussion, but it'd be relevant if someone searched for a thread like this in the future...
9E provides $50/month for commuters in NYC. It can be added to your paycheck (and taxed), or it can be paid in a commuter card (and not taxed). The commuter card can be used to pay for shared Uber/Lyfts and pretty much any transportation ticket/pass you can buy.
Cue the "but the vaaaaaan" folks in 3... 2...
9E provides $50/month for commuters in NYC. It can be added to your paycheck (and taxed), or it can be paid in a commuter card (and not taxed). The commuter card can be used to pay for shared Uber/Lyfts and pretty much any transportation ticket/pass you can buy.
Cue the "but the vaaaaaan" folks in 3... 2...
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