Now for a anti-happy pilot post...
05-06-2007 | 10:57 AM
#141
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Ok, I'll bite..
Is anywhere in California where 30,000,000 Americans live cheap?
How about Nevada?
Or Oregon, Washington, Georgia, New Jersey, New York, Pencilvenia, Ohio, New Hampshire, Colorado, Wyoming.. etc? Find me a real estate link from any place for that matter with a population more than 1,000,000 in the US where I can get a 3 br, 2300-2500sf home, two car garage in a SAFE neighborhood with good schools for less than $450,000??
Not everyone is cut out to live in a trailer park or in a small town 50 miles from anything... Or do you think we pilots are not worthy to live among the rest of the "Professional" world?
Kid..
Is anywhere in California where 30,000,000 Americans live cheap?
How about Nevada?
Or Oregon, Washington, Georgia, New Jersey, New York, Pencilvenia, Ohio, New Hampshire, Colorado, Wyoming.. etc? Find me a real estate link from any place for that matter with a population more than 1,000,000 in the US where I can get a 3 br, 2300-2500sf home, two car garage in a SAFE neighborhood with good schools for less than $450,000??
Not everyone is cut out to live in a trailer park or in a small town 50 miles from anything... Or do you think we pilots are not worthy to live among the rest of the "Professional" world?
Kid..
05-06-2007 | 11:40 AM
#143
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From: rj 700/900
It's all relative. Depending on where and how you live $50k will make a comfortable living. My mom has raised three children, bought a nice home and more on about 70% of that. We don't take expensive vacations or fancy cars and that's fine.
Does that mean I'm satisified at 50k? No, but it's a start, and a hell of a lot better than I'm doing right now.
Does that mean I'm satisified at 50k? No, but it's a start, and a hell of a lot better than I'm doing right now.
Go check out some retirement calculators and see what you need to contribute to live the same type of lifestyle until you die. You will be surprised.
05-06-2007 | 12:48 PM
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05-06-2007 | 12:56 PM
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Sky,
If you really want to depress yourself, go to www.flyertalk.com, then to the AAdvantage forum, then to the thread about AA pilots demanding a 30.5% payraise. Interesting to see how many people think pilots are greedy, yet they defend management bonuses. I almost had a stroke reading that stuff the other day.
If you really want to depress yourself, go to www.flyertalk.com, then to the AAdvantage forum, then to the thread about AA pilots demanding a 30.5% payraise. Interesting to see how many people think pilots are greedy, yet they defend management bonuses. I almost had a stroke reading that stuff the other day.
Here is a more specific link. This just shows you what the common trash out there thinks of the profession. These tards don't understand that a 30% raise isn't very good when it's following a 50% pay cut.
05-06-2007 | 02:49 PM
#146
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New Generation
http://flyertalk.com/forum/showthread.php?t=689429
Here is a more specific link. This just shows you what the common trash out there thinks of the profession. These tards don't understand that a 30% raise isn't very good when it's following a 50% pay cut.
Here is a more specific link. This just shows you what the common trash out there thinks of the profession. These tards don't understand that a 30% raise isn't very good when it's following a 50% pay cut.
Anyone left here who thinks there will be increased wages? Good luck.
SkyHigh
05-06-2007 | 02:59 PM
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From: Corporate Pilot
20 Years
When I was 20 years old I would have jumped at the chance to fly for a regional. However times were very different, I had to work for years as a CFI then air taxi in several states for many years more before I was competitive for a regional. When I did finally get on at a regional I was the lowest time guy in class with 3800 hours total and 1400 multi-engine.
The sacrifices I made along the way are what solidified my expectations. If I was a 20 year old 300 hour new hire at a regional I would have hardly invested anything. Easy come easy go I guess. Who cares about anything when the job has no value to the people who hired on with nothing?
The job is meaningless to someone who acquired easy success at such a young age. Why expect to get paid too?
I sacrifised a lot and expect a lot.
SkyHigh
The sacrifices I made along the way are what solidified my expectations. If I was a 20 year old 300 hour new hire at a regional I would have hardly invested anything. Easy come easy go I guess. Who cares about anything when the job has no value to the people who hired on with nothing?
The job is meaningless to someone who acquired easy success at such a young age. Why expect to get paid too?
I sacrifised a lot and expect a lot.
SkyHigh
05-06-2007 | 03:05 PM
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From: ATP, CFI etc.
I'm a little depressed about it since all through school I looked up to this career and I no longer really believe it's worth it. There is a long hard road involved. At least I have a back up plan in case the aerospace industry tanks. Don't hold your breath waiting for that to happen.
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05-06-2007 | 03:10 PM
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From: Flying the SEC
http://flyertalk.com/forum/showthread.php?t=689429
Here is a more specific link. This just shows you what the common trash out there thinks of the profession. These tards don't understand that a 30% raise isn't very good when it's following a 50% pay cut.
Here is a more specific link. This just shows you what the common trash out there thinks of the profession. These tards don't understand that a 30% raise isn't very good when it's following a 50% pay cut.
05-06-2007 | 04:54 PM
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From: 737 Right
Payments on a $300,000 loan might be as high as $2200 a month (PITI)
You think someone could survive on the remaining $6100 per month? <sarcasm should be obvious>
I've almost never made over $100,000 a year in my life and will make significantly less than that now. Wife does not work. I live in a >3000sq foot house in a very nice neighborhood. 4 kids; college, Army, High School. I drive a paid off lexus.
Not trying to brag but according to some of you guys, I'm a hillbillie in a trailer park. I think you need to rethink your budgets.
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