More XJT flying for DAL
05-10-2007 | 09:05 PM
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From: Cessna 152 Captain
Southwest does it regularly in 25 minutes with a 737. Know why their employees work that hard? They believe in the company and the company believes in them by offering them the incentives to work hard (better pay, bonuses, better environment, etc). Its the same deal at XJT especially now that our future is in our own hands.
I think CAL is beginning to realize the mess on their hands with the Cha-take-your-job-away thing but as long as Larry's bottom line improves in the short term, it must be a good decision, right?
Personally, I make a point of saying ExpressJet as much as possible on PAs and when talking to pax just to distance ourselves from that whole mess over there with CHQ. Kinda sucks that CHQ gets to use CoEx titles because now they are making us look bad.
PS
Anyone heard the rumors of CAL suing CHQ for the cost of all the denied boarding compensation given out at CHQ stations? Have heard its costing CAL, on average, $70,000 per month per CHQ station. Also have heard that CAL is mad at CHQ for not using ACARS or a decent W&B program. Gotta love the circus
I think CAL is beginning to realize the mess on their hands with the Cha-take-your-job-away thing but as long as Larry's bottom line improves in the short term, it must be a good decision, right?
Personally, I make a point of saying ExpressJet as much as possible on PAs and when talking to pax just to distance ourselves from that whole mess over there with CHQ. Kinda sucks that CHQ gets to use CoEx titles because now they are making us look bad.PS
Anyone heard the rumors of CAL suing CHQ for the cost of all the denied boarding compensation given out at CHQ stations? Have heard its costing CAL, on average, $70,000 per month per CHQ station. Also have heard that CAL is mad at CHQ for not using ACARS or a decent W&B program. Gotta love the circus
And WB.. are you kidding me.. a decent FO at Comair can Turn an airplane in under 20 min and WE dont have ACARS and the WB is done BY the FO manually....ACARS I can only wish some of you guys are REally Spoiled tho I wish we had ACARS.. oh and a better Radar Head
05-10-2007 | 10:00 PM
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LOL ACARS...
And WB.. are you kidding me.. a decent FO at Comair can Turn an airplane in under 20 min and WE dont have ACARS and the WB is done BY the FO manually....ACARS I can only wish some of you guys are REally Spoiled tho I wish we had ACARS.. oh and a better Radar Head
And WB.. are you kidding me.. a decent FO at Comair can Turn an airplane in under 20 min and WE dont have ACARS and the WB is done BY the FO manually....ACARS I can only wish some of you guys are REally Spoiled tho I wish we had ACARS.. oh and a better Radar Head
05-11-2007 | 03:23 AM
#43
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Yeah and when I was at PDT we turned 50-seaters in 14 minutes (and sometimes less), no ACARS, manual W&B. What's your point? It's nice to be able to take your time and not rush. And when you have mgmt standing behind you and allowing you plenty of time to do your job, it makes things that much better.
i agree. working waaaay to hard for what they pay without any incentive is just plain abusive. im not going out of my way for people who dont gave a damm about me
05-11-2007 | 05:40 AM
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Seriously, though, we did turn the 300s in less than 15 all the time.
05-11-2007 | 07:27 AM
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I've used the manual and auto (via ACARS) W&B program and can say that neither is faster, they are about the same, until you start having the agents put one person on at a time after the flight is technically closed, or have the rampers load a few bags after starting push back. The W&B on the ACARS saves a lot of headaches.
05-11-2007 | 07:30 AM
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05-12-2007 | 12:51 AM
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LOL ACARS...
And WB.. are you kidding me.. a decent FO at Comair can Turn an airplane in under 20 min and WE dont have ACARS and the WB is done BY the FO manually....ACARS I can only wish some of you guys are REally Spoiled tho I wish we had ACARS.. oh and a better Radar Head
And WB.. are you kidding me.. a decent FO at Comair can Turn an airplane in under 20 min and WE dont have ACARS and the WB is done BY the FO manually....ACARS I can only wish some of you guys are REally Spoiled tho I wish we had ACARS.. oh and a better Radar Head
Yeah and when I was at PDT we turned 50-seaters in 14 minutes (and sometimes less), no ACARS, manual W&B. What's your point? It's nice to be able to take your time and not rush. And when you have mgmt standing behind you and allowing you plenty of time to do your job, it makes things that much better.
05-12-2007 | 05:13 AM
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From: B-717 FO / C-17 AC
people dont do those things as a selfish way to feel better about themselves. its about improving work condiitons and encouraging positive changes for your industry. but i guess you dont care as long as you get your $50 check, and your executives are getting something slightly more than that for exploiting you. and i bet they sleep TERRIBLY at night knowing their employees are barely making ends meet. im not criticizing you for working for low pay because i do it too and i know its all about building time and moving on up... however i am concerned with your justification of such a lousy system.
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