Best Regional NYC Envoy, Endeavor or Republic
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Endeavor's reserve is long, and Endeavor has a glut of 2017 hires who are holding things up movement-wise. It's not a bad airline, but it's not a good pick for time-building and upgrades right now.
Republic has a lot of the same pay/QOL perks as Endeavor (and some better), but it doesn't have the same glut of pilots.
Envoy QOL is by far the worst of the three, and you can probably get a job somewhere else before you flow in nine years. Unless AA is your goal, it isn't worth it.
Republic has a lot of the same pay/QOL perks as Endeavor (and some better), but it doesn't have the same glut of pilots.
Envoy QOL is by far the worst of the three, and you can probably get a job somewhere else before you flow in nine years. Unless AA is your goal, it isn't worth it.
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Republic is a good company, with good planes, and good routes. The problem is that there isn't that much movement there because a lack of a career movement platform like CPP/Aviate/Flow/DGI whatever. Endeavor is a good company but you won't fly because of the long reserve times. Out of the 3 you should honestly look at Envoy.
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This is not accurate. So many of our pilots have moved on we’re at a net loss for 2019 so far. Our pilots go to all 3 legacies, Spirit, Frontier, Southwest, & ACMI’s.
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I'm not saying that there is zero movement, I'm saying that there is less movement which has to be true. The same is said for people at Envoy, people leave for all 3 legacies, Spirit, Frontier, Southwest, & ACMI’s as well. But additionally there are 20 people who leave off the top every month. Republic is a great carrier, I have a bunch of friends there and everyone is more than happy. I've said that Republic is a great carrier, with great airplanes, and great routes (look up a couple posts). I'm not trying to get into any type of argument, we're all pilots all looking out for each other, but good or bad, it's just a non argumentative fact that Envoy loses more people every year than Republic.
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Republic seems to be the flavor of the kool aid for the last 6 months or so. Before that, it was Endeavor. Personally, I would go Envoy, put the flow in the back pocket while you can still apply to other places including AA (off the street).
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I'm not saying that there is zero movement, I'm saying that there is less movement which has to be true. The same is said for people at Envoy, people leave for all 3 legacies, Spirit, Frontier, Southwest, & ACMI’s as well. But additionally there are 20 people who leave off the top every month. Republic is a great carrier, I have a bunch of friends there and everyone is more than happy. I've said that Republic is a great carrier, with great airplanes, and great routes (look up a couple posts). I'm not trying to get into any type of argument, we're all pilots all looking out for each other, but good or bad, it's just a non argumentative fact that Envoy loses more people every year than Republic.
It's an interesting exercise, though!
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This is turning out to be a very difficult decision between the 3. The pluses and minuses I see so far are.
Envoy
Pluses
1) 3 hour call out
2) AA flow
3) Possibly shorter reserve times
4) Possibly faster upgrade to captain
Minuses
1) Driving to LGA (from South shore eastern Long Island)
2) Quality of life not as good as 2 others?
Endeavor
Pluses
1) LGA & JFK base
2) Driving to JFK after a little seniority
3) 2 1/2 call out to JFK better than LGA
4) Highest pay for regional, at least that’s what they say
5) Good quality of life
6) CRJ 900
7) Delta interview
Minuses
1) Possibly longer reserve times
2) Possibly longer upgrade to captain
Republic
1) Possibly shorter reserve time
2) Not sitting in the airport on reserve all day
3) No junior manning
4) E175
5) Good quality of life
6) Better Pilot contract?
Minuses
1) 2 hour call out
2) Driving to LGA
3) Possibly longer upgrade to captain
I would greatly appreciate anymore I might have missed plus your thoughts and experiences.
Envoy
Pluses
1) 3 hour call out
2) AA flow
3) Possibly shorter reserve times
4) Possibly faster upgrade to captain
Minuses
1) Driving to LGA (from South shore eastern Long Island)
2) Quality of life not as good as 2 others?
Endeavor
Pluses
1) LGA & JFK base
2) Driving to JFK after a little seniority
3) 2 1/2 call out to JFK better than LGA
4) Highest pay for regional, at least that’s what they say
5) Good quality of life
6) CRJ 900
7) Delta interview
Minuses
1) Possibly longer reserve times
2) Possibly longer upgrade to captain
Republic
1) Possibly shorter reserve time
2) Not sitting in the airport on reserve all day
3) No junior manning
4) E175
5) Good quality of life
6) Better Pilot contract?
Minuses
1) 2 hour call out
2) Driving to LGA
3) Possibly longer upgrade to captain
I would greatly appreciate anymore I might have missed plus your thoughts and experiences.
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