Best Regional NYC Envoy, Endeavor or Republic
#51
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From: Whale FO
Since the OP stated he wanted to stay at the Regional....Republic is a better choice. It would take him 10 years at Envoy (92.00 as per the rates listed on APC ENVOY PROFILE) to reach the same pay as a year 3 Captain (based on Jan 1, 2020 rates) at Republic. This is for the 145 at Envoy since he wants to be based in NYC.
#53
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From: Whale FO
6 years is listed as $95/hr, is the APC profile not accurate?
The 10 year pay rates aren't really relevant at Envoy. Envoy has no 10 year captains who are there because they can't get hired elsewhere.
Going to a regional and planning to stay there for 14 years is pretty crazy.
The 10 year pay rates aren't really relevant at Envoy. Envoy has no 10 year captains who are there because they can't get hired elsewhere.
Going to a regional and planning to stay there for 14 years is pretty crazy.
#54
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These are the new rates that go in effect Jan 1, 2020.....I am guessing APC won't update them until Jan 1, 2020....If the OP wants to stay at the Regional like he/she posted, then 10-yr rates are applicable, assuming age 65 doesn't get them before 10 years....
#55
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From: Whale FO
If you really intend to become a lifer, then RAH is not a bad gig right now. But with 14 years left, there are so many opportunities for a much, much better career elsewhere. 14 years is an eternity in the regional industry. Only a couple of years ago, Republic was the bottom feeder. Who knows what it looks like in the next decade and a half. Regional should never be a career plan if you have more than 2-3 years left.
#56
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From: Guppy
My only concern with Republic is the 2 hour call out on reserve, I agree with you about everything else. I live about 1 hour and 10 minutes from LGA without any traffic at all. With rush hour traffic it could possibly be just over 2 hours. I know it’s only a couple of months if that but was curious how others have handled a similar situation. Envoy has a 3 hour call out in NYC.
It doesn't affect me one way or another where you go, but you're way overthinking this. Republic is the best option in NYC, period. Your fears of only being ~45 minutes inside the callout is pretty silly to those of us that have done it. And I mean that in a good way. I'd kill to have a 1 hour drive to my base. VERY few reserve calls are 2 hour callouts. Maybe 1 in 15-20. Many are for the next day. And you can generally figure out where you fall in the reserve pecking order using our software and/or just calling Crew Scheduling.
All for just a couple of months of reserve.
#57
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The point isn't what you make after 10 years it is what you make after 3 years. Republic would be the highest by far. Endeavor may have slightly higher pay rates but it will take you longer to get that CA pay there. In this upcoming hiring environment is that something you want to sacrifice for low QOL and crappy pay at Envoy?
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The point isn't what you make after 10 years it is what you make after 3 years. Republic would be the highest by far. Endeavor may have slightly higher pay rates but it will take you longer to get that CA pay there. In this upcoming hiring environment is that something you want to sacrifice for low QOL and crappy pay at Envoy?
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From: Whale FO
Ask ASA/XJT how the "lifetime" travel benefits worked with Delta for them.
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