Tipping Van Drivers
05-02-2021, 05:02 AM
#581
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Originally Posted by fussydutchman
If you want to tip, do it. I don’t and won’t, and am still amazed by the criticism made against that with logical fallacies and false equivalencies to it being a judgment of character and morality.
For those of you that swear by the social norm or any other argument that has been made, knock yourself out. But let’s be honest. Many of you throw a dollar or 2 at the van driver because it makes you feel less uncomfortable than not doing so. Spare me the moral superiority. I’m at peace knowing that my qualities as an airline pilot, a professional, or a leader come from being responsible, respectful, caring, empathetic, and loving to my family, my community, my friends, the public, and the planet I inhabit.
For those of you that swear by the social norm or any other argument that has been made, knock yourself out. But let’s be honest. Many of you throw a dollar or 2 at the van driver because it makes you feel less uncomfortable than not doing so. Spare me the moral superiority. I’m at peace knowing that my qualities as an airline pilot, a professional, or a leader come from being responsible, respectful, caring, empathetic, and loving to my family, my community, my friends, the public, and the planet I inhabit.
05-05-2021, 02:53 AM
#584
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What about those of us that are early in our career to the point that the van driver is getting paid more than us.... I’m not tipping a guy that makes more, gets paid an actual wage and doesn’t rely on tips,(unlike restaurant servers) and is getting PAID to drive. The hotel is paying him to do a job and he’s doing it. IDC about the stupid social norms saying I should tip him, and frankly the Van drivers that have their Venmo and CashApp listed so we can tip with our phones is sickening. A van driver getting tips for transporting people, is akin to pilots getting tips for transporting people. I don’t ask for, or get tips for transporting people so why should they? We both get paid a wage to do our jobs that we have agreed to when we took the job in the first place.
05-05-2021, 04:14 AM
#585
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Originally Posted by NewbiePilot
What about those of us that are early in our career to the point that the van driver is getting paid more than us.... I’m not tipping a guy that makes more, gets paid an actual wage and doesn’t rely on tips,(unlike restaurant servers) and is getting PAID to drive. The hotel is paying him to do a job and he’s doing it. IDC about the stupid social norms saying I should tip him, and frankly the Van drivers that have their Venmo and CashApp listed so we can tip with our phones is sickening. A van driver getting tips for transporting people, is akin to pilots getting tips for transporting people. I don’t ask for, or get tips for transporting people so why should they? We both get paid a wage to do our jobs that we have agreed to when we took the job in the first place.
05-05-2021, 05:13 AM
#586
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Originally Posted by NewbiePilot
What about those of us that are early in our career to the point that the van driver is getting paid more than us.... I’m not tipping a guy that makes more, gets paid an actual wage and doesn’t rely on tips,(unlike restaurant servers) and is getting PAID to drive. The hotel is paying him to do a job and he’s doing it. IDC about the stupid social norms saying I should tip him, and frankly the Van drivers that have their Venmo and CashApp listed so we can tip with our phones is sickening. A van driver getting tips for transporting people, is akin to pilots getting tips for transporting people. I don’t ask for, or get tips for transporting people so why should they? We both get paid a wage to do our jobs that we have agreed to when we took the job in the first place.
First of all what van driver is making more than a Regional pilot? Secondly you cheapskates were complaining that you couldn't tip because you "never carry cash" or whatever excuse and now that they have modern methods that you "non cash carriers" use now you complain for them being so presumptions as to list electronic ways to tip. You can't have it both ways lol
It is so embarrassing when the FA tips but the FO or CA doesn't.
05-05-2021, 05:31 AM
#588
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Originally Posted by NewbiePilot
A van driver getting tips for transporting people, is akin to pilots getting tips for transporting people. I don’t ask for, or get tips for transporting people so why should they? We both get paid a wage to do our jobs that we have agreed to when we took the job in the first place.
One is a professional (in the classical sense) the other is not. A pilot is not tipped because we are certificated, held to standards by an outside regulating body and occasionally meet some sort of recurrent standard. It is the base reason every person who works for a living wants state they are a “professional”.
You do not tip your doctor, teacher, lawyer, plumber, engineer, pilot, etc.
Another non-tipped person is the proprietor.
05-05-2021, 06:47 AM
#589
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Originally Posted by coodrough568
What’s hilarious are the people complaining that “I’m a year one FO I don’t make enough to tip”, and the salary has basically doubled for you in the past 5 years. Year one pay used to be about $18-20 an hour. Now I believe the lowest is $36.
