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Old 05-16-2008 | 07:17 AM
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Thanks for the update. Looks like my June 30 class date will be pushed back again. Oh well.
Old 05-16-2008 | 08:47 AM
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So, I am trying to figure approximately where I stand in the hiring process. Currently I have a June 30 class date which I expect will now be moved because of the 12 additional seat locks being released. According to the latest fleet update on Mesaba's airline profile on APC, 10 of the 17 200's have been delivered and 21 of the proposed 36 900's have been delivered. My understanding is that all the pilots needed to staff the 17 200's have been hired and trained and are just waiting for the airframes to arrive. Is this correct?

Next, the Saab is fully, if not overstaffed because of the seatlocks being released. Obviously no hiring into that plane for now.

That leaves the 900, which I and the rest of the new hires are proposed to go into. If 21 of the 36 have been delivered, that leaves 15. Do any of you have any educated guesses as to how many more pilots will be needed to staff the remaining planes assuming all 36 are delivered? Another assumption I am making is that the people already in training are to staff planes that have not yet arrived, so maybe 10 undelivered airplanes still needing crews at about 10 pilots per plane, leaving space for approximately 100 new hires?

I know this is all speculation and anything could happen, but assuming the airplanes get delivered that are suppose to be delivered, are my expectations reasonable?

Thanks,

Rob
Old 05-16-2008 | 12:15 PM
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Originally Posted by racemey
So, I am trying to figure approximately where I stand in the hiring process. Currently I have a June 30 class date which I expect will now be moved because of the 12 additional seat locks being released. According to the latest fleet update on Mesaba's airline profile on APC, 10 of the 17 200's have been delivered and 21 of the proposed 36 900's have been delivered. My understanding is that all the pilots needed to staff the 17 200's have been hired and trained and are just waiting for the airframes to arrive. Is this correct?

Next, the Saab is fully, if not overstaffed because of the seatlocks being released. Obviously no hiring into that plane for now.

That leaves the 900, which I and the rest of the new hires are proposed to go into. If 21 of the 36 have been delivered, that leaves 15. Do any of you have any educated guesses as to how many more pilots will be needed to staff the remaining planes assuming all 36 are delivered? Another assumption I am making is that the people already in training are to staff planes that have not yet arrived, so maybe 10 undelivered airplanes still needing crews at about 10 pilots per plane, leaving space for approximately 100 new hires?

I know this is all speculation and anything could happen, but assuming the airplanes get delivered that are suppose to be delivered, are my expectations reasonable?

Thanks,

Rob
I believe our current staffing per aircraft is about 5 FO's per frame. I think the saabs are getting back to a close level of staffing. According to the MEC the flow through is still intact and will remain so even when Delta takes over. When hiring at the mainline begins again we will be losing 3-9 pilots per month, so there will be a need for more pilots. I would guess that you will be in class by the latest august, I dont know if that answers your question or not.
Old 05-18-2008 | 08:18 AM
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Originally Posted by OntheMissed
Does anyone know how often the 900 reserve fos are getting called up these days in Detroit? Just trying to figure out how busy I'm gonna be for the next couple of months. Thanks guys!
I'm a D9F, but conned Minni into letting me sit reserve there...and flew every day on reserve on 6 days. A couple of guys that i know that are pretty low on the totem pole in DTW had the same 6 days and never got called... it really just depends on where your at...and whats going on apparently a bunch of 900's broke at the end of the week and they needed reserves....my plane's IRS kept reverting and the ACARS was deferred...yuck manual weight and balance
Old 05-18-2008 | 08:34 AM
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Originally Posted by djrogs03
I'm a D9F, but conned Minni into letting me sit reserve there...and flew every day on reserve on 6 days. A couple of guys that i know that are pretty low on the totem pole in DTW had the same 6 days and never got called... it really just depends on where your at...and whats going on apparently a bunch of 900's broke at the end of the week and they needed reserves....my plane's IRS kept reverting and the ACARS was deferred...yuck manual weight and balance
If I remember right there were only two or three reserve lines in msp...maybe thats why they've been using you so much in msp?
Old 05-18-2008 | 10:32 AM
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Originally Posted by djrogs03
I'm a D9F, but conned Minni into letting me sit reserve there...and flew every day on reserve on 6 days. A couple of guys that i know that are pretty low on the totem pole in DTW had the same 6 days and never got called... it really just depends on where your at...and whats going on apparently a bunch of 900's broke at the end of the week and they needed reserves....my plane's IRS kept reverting and the ACARS was deferred...yuck manual weight and balance
You lucky sob, everytime I call they say they are overstaffed for reserves in MSP.
Old 05-18-2008 | 10:37 AM
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Originally Posted by BenFluth216
You lucky sob, everytime I call they say they are overstaffed for reserves in MSP.
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Old 05-18-2008 | 12:13 PM
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3 weeks of reserve and 1 highspeed 8 more days of reserve forcasted flying 0
Old 05-18-2008 | 01:02 PM
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I know it's hard to believe, but last year at this time EVERYBODY was flying close to 90 hours and crediting well over 100.

No available reserves. Vacations canceled. Jr manning like crazy.

I hated not flying when I was a new hire, especially when I didn't live in base.

Believe me when I say that the current no flying status alot of you are having right now isn't the rule, it's the exception. Then like me you will wish for the no flying days you have now.
Old 05-18-2008 | 04:07 PM
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Originally Posted by xj200capt
I know it's hard to believe, but last year at this time EVERYBODY was flying close to 90 hours and crediting well over 100.

No available reserves. Vacations canceled. Jr manning like crazy.

I hated not flying when I was a new hire, especially when I didn't live in base.

Believe me when I say that the current no flying status alot of you are having right now isn't the rule, it's the exception. Then like me you will wish for the no flying days you have now.

Bingo... enjoy the free time this summer.... the next time you have it you may well be unemployed.
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