Scope... It’s time?
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Sanicom is correct, my perspective is similar. The majors have a very high consistency for pilot quality. That can be measured in raw skill and also "cultural" quality which correlates to professionalism.
Regionals are menageries... you have inexperienced pilots who are developing potential, experienced pilots waiting for the call, and a few who are stuck by choice or circumstances.
But you also have incorrigible slackers, attitude cases of all stripes, deviant personalities, and misfit toys hiding out in the regional ranks. There's enough of that to make it hard for the good ones to establish a reliable safety culture... you're caught between resisting normalization of deviance and not wanting to come off as a tool.
Professionalism and SOP can be taken for granted at the majors (of course there's always the 1%).
Regionals are menageries... you have inexperienced pilots who are developing potential, experienced pilots waiting for the call, and a few who are stuck by choice or circumstances.
But you also have incorrigible slackers, attitude cases of all stripes, deviant personalities, and misfit toys hiding out in the regional ranks. There's enough of that to make it hard for the good ones to establish a reliable safety culture... you're caught between resisting normalization of deviance and not wanting to come off as a tool.
Professionalism and SOP can be taken for granted at the majors (of course there's always the 1%).
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It’s not about the quality of the player, it’s about the team that you play for. In baseball, there are more people willing to shell out big bucks to watch a major league game than a minor league game, therefore the players for the major league teams can command much higher compensation. In our sport the players for the majors control most of the games being played through scope clauses. The owners would much rather let the lower paid players take the field, but they can’t. As a result the majors have much more leverage in determining compensation levels. The experienced players in the regionals are good as well, but they lack the same leverage as those at the majors. If I could wave my magic wand I’d have the regionals make contractual gains to the point that the current whipsaw regional business model is no longer cost effective and we’d all be better off, unfortunately that isn’t the case. My original point was that the people running around saying that they are apparently good enough haul passengers for brand x at regional pay, but not for brand x pay gets a little old. Some really good pilots never get an interview, some bust for good reason, and some make it. It’s just the way that the game is played.
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All pilots get paid by the same people, the passengers!
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It’s not about the quality of the player, it’s about the team that you play for. In baseball, there are more people willing to shell out big bucks to watch a major league game than a minor league game, therefore the players for the major league teams can command much higher compensation. In our sport the players for the majors control most of the games being played through scope clauses. The owners would much rather let the lower paid players take the field, but they can’t. As a result the majors have much more leverage in determining compensation levels. The experienced players in the regionals are good as well, but they lack the same leverage as those at the majors. If I could wave my magic wand I’d have the regionals make contractual gains to the point that made the current whipsaw regional business model is no longer cost effective and we’d all be better off, unfortunately that isn’t the case. My original point was that the people running around saying that they are apparently good enough haul passengers for brand x at regional pay, but not for brand x pay gets a little old. Some really good pilots never get an interview, some bust for good reason, and some make it. It’s just the way that the game is played.
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Let's hope this crap goes away quickly for all pilots sake.
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From: It's a plane and it's a seat
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One of the biggest oddities I've seen in this industry, as a second career person at a regional, is the tribal/entitlement mindset of different pilot groups. I never saw anything like that in the engineering world. The notion that "we judge others by their actions, but ourselves by our intentions" seems to be especially accurate.
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