COVID-19 Concessions
#13
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#17
In a land of unicorns
Joined APC: Apr 2014
Position: Whale FO
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Are you seriously complaining that they can cancel flights while getting paid for them?
#18
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Joined APC: Mar 2017
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The company is exposing us to greater risk using this approach and it will simply mean more long mid-day sits and more being stuck at outstations until they figure out what to do with us. Mid-day sits in base are not covered for pilots in terms of a free hotel, so plan on using a commuter. If you burn trough them, plan on buying your own or sitting on a bench. I would much rather be able to choose to stay at home and still know I will get some sort of pay, not asking for the entire thing here, but something.
Lets not fool ourselves here either, the company will receive relief from the government on this and will be able to recoup losses related to crew/personnel. so they could have done the right thing. Per the usual, our union has come out and essentially defended the company while asking us to conserve fuel with nothing going in our favor or looking out for us.
#19
A *common* consensus among major pilots who lived through it last time is don't give concessions because that will just be used as a lower set-point when they file BK... better to lose 40% of 100%, rather than 40% of 60%.
Apparently there's no legal mechanism for a "snap-back" provision which would survive a BK filing... courts will only care what your pay was going in, they won't care how you got there.
Apparently there's no legal mechanism for a "snap-back" provision which would survive a BK filing... courts will only care what your pay was going in, they won't care how you got there.
Make no mistake, the legacies will not be thinking strategically so to speak in the coming months. They will be thinking only of survival. Low cost over performance is going to become a critical factor all over again and watch... the whipsaw is alive and well. Get ready for it. Only this time the need to reduce capacity is more critical than it was in prior industry events. This is going to get nasty.
#20
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Joined APC: Sep 2017
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Sure... But you do realize all leverage is gone. And regionals never had a ton of leverage to begin with. The only saving grace for regionals for the past few years has been the exponential growth the legacies were trying to support necessitating throwing money at staffing the regionals. That has ended as of February 2020.
Make no mistake, the legacies will not be thinking strategically so to speak in the coming months. They will be thinking only of survival. Low cost over performance is going to become a critical factor all over again and watch... the whipsaw is alive and well. Get ready for it. Only this time the need to reduce capacity is more critical than it was in prior industry events. This is going to get nasty.
Make no mistake, the legacies will not be thinking strategically so to speak in the coming months. They will be thinking only of survival. Low cost over performance is going to become a critical factor all over again and watch... the whipsaw is alive and well. Get ready for it. Only this time the need to reduce capacity is more critical than it was in prior industry events. This is going to get nasty.
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