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Old 03-30-2020 | 04:25 PM
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Originally Posted by Systemized
Glad you liked it junior, getting ready for part II, “Alter Egos.”
staffing went up per hull due to part 117 changes in late 2013. What used to be a reduced rest overnight now requires a pre-staged crew. You need 13 to staff what used to be 10.
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Old 03-30-2020 | 04:27 PM
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Originally Posted by Systemized
Every mainline captain has a son or daughter in flight school. Before 2013, mainline pilots told every kid they knew not to become pilots, which created the pilot shortage.
not even close to what caused the shortage.
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Old 03-30-2020 | 05:44 PM
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The bonuses and higher FO pay was never there for the embry riddle kids. Those types were always willing to work for $22/hr. The bonuses were there to pull in pilots from other regionals or aviation segments as there wasn’t enough embry riddle kids out there.

Now we have plenty of embry riddle kids in the pipeline as their mainline parents got them in once the industry recovered, pilot shortage solved no need for higher FO pay so you guys better fight to hold onto it.

Every mainline captain has a son or daughter in flight school. Before 2013, mainline pilots told every kid they knew not to become pilots, which created the pilot shortage.
Whatever you are on please pass the needle!
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Old 03-31-2020 | 07:23 AM
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not even close to what caused the shortage.
It didn’t cause the shortage but was certainly a factor. It’s hard to keep the motivation to become a pro pilot when every professional pilot you talk to tells you that if they could go back they would do something else
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Old 03-31-2020 | 08:36 AM
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name one professional pilot who would do something else if given the chance.......Most if if not all will need their cold dead hands pried from the stick.
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Old 03-31-2020 | 08:39 AM
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As for the pilot storage...cost its that simply. I got my PPL in High school working part time for 3.35/hr and you didn't have to written a 1000 dollar check for a check ride.
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Old 03-31-2020 | 06:30 PM
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As for the pilot storage...cost its that simply. I got my PPL in High school working part time for 3.35/hr and you didn't have to written a 1000 dollar check for a check ride.
That must have been around the mid-eighties.
what I like to call “the good old days.”

These days are just plain old.
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Old 03-31-2020 | 08:43 PM
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Originally Posted by Romad172
name one professional pilot who would do something else if given the chance.......Most if if not all will need their cold dead hands pried from the stick.
Guilty. I've had a variety of real jobs.
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Old 04-01-2020 | 09:34 AM
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Originally Posted by DontLookDown
It didn’t cause the shortage but was certainly a factor. It’s hard to keep the motivation to become a pro pilot when every professional pilot you talk to tells you that if they could go back they would do something else
confusing symptoms with cause only helps managements.
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Old 04-01-2020 | 09:35 AM
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Originally Posted by klondike
That must have been around the mid-eighties.
what I like to call “the good old days.”

These days are just plain old.
no, well before that. Even in the 80’s the costs were high.
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