Who cares about 900s - Age 60 is toast
05-24-2007, 03:31 PM
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Originally Posted by stickwiggler
your math is fuzzy... how does five years at "middle of the pack" pay get to be worth than 5 years of the highest payrate you'll ever see?
Boiler, I could be wrong, you might be a former C-5 Air Mission Commander with 20,000 hours and a PHD in astrophysics, but my guess it your are 20 something, got hired at an airline when you still didn't even have a comma in your logbook. The sense of entitlement that a lot of younger pilots have doesn't set well with the crowd that has been doing this a long, long time.
You speak of a sense of entitlement in younger folks...just what do you think old folks have??? I've heard a bunch of incredulous attitude from pro-change folks that older pilots are seemingly "owed" another 5 years because of their 1. seniority, 2. sacrifices post-9/11, 3. loss of pensions or the most foolish of them all, 4. age. Older pilots have fought their battles and faced their adversity; younger pilots will do the same in their time. Why should I have fo fight for both? Why should my earning potential and career progression fund their loss of pension, ex-wives, toys, and financial mismanagement simply because of my young? If that's not narcissistic, I don't know what is!
The absolute only thing I feel "entitled" to is the same benefit of career progression as a 59 year old had when he was in my shoes. Actually, I also feel entitled to folks telling the truth about this whole deal...its not about "the right thing to do", its not about ICAO, its about money.
05-24-2007, 04:38 PM
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Originally Posted by CashRefund
Well just think, you still get your extra 5 years at the top of your game.. 
Last edited by Eric Stratton; 05-24-2007 at 05:22 PM.
05-24-2007, 05:01 PM
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I side with those who AREN'T freaking out about the age 60 rule.
1) While there are things about flying that does stress one out, for the most part, someone is paying me to FLY AN AIRPLANE. If I personally ever get sick of it, I know McDonald's is always hiring.
2) Orville and Wilbur should have indicated that operators of their miraculous invention would lose all commercial privileges at age 65...then we would have never had this whole problem to begin with.
3) It's got to go to 65. We should have never forced people to retire to begin with --- I've got to believe that any folks that are complaining currently WOULD/WILL feel differently if they were at 59.5 and didn't want to stop doing what they love.
Mon deux centimes.
1) While there are things about flying that does stress one out, for the most part, someone is paying me to FLY AN AIRPLANE. If I personally ever get sick of it, I know McDonald's is always hiring.
2) Orville and Wilbur should have indicated that operators of their miraculous invention would lose all commercial privileges at age 65...then we would have never had this whole problem to begin with.
3) It's got to go to 65. We should have never forced people to retire to begin with --- I've got to believe that any folks that are complaining currently WOULD/WILL feel differently if they were at 59.5 and didn't want to stop doing what they love.
Mon deux centimes.
05-24-2007, 05:27 PM
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Originally Posted by AFPirate
I side with those who AREN'T freaking out about the age 60 rule.
1) While there are things about flying that does stress one out, for the most part, someone is paying me to FLY AN AIRPLANE. If I personally ever get sick of it, I know McDonald's is always hiring.
2) Orville and Wilbur should have indicated that operators of their miraculous invention would lose all commercial privileges at age 65...then we would have never had this whole problem to begin with.
3) It's got to go to 65. We should have never forced people to retire to begin with --- I've got to believe that any folks that are complaining currently WOULD/WILL feel differently if they were at 59.5 and didn't want to stop doing what they love.
Mon deux centimes.
1) While there are things about flying that does stress one out, for the most part, someone is paying me to FLY AN AIRPLANE. If I personally ever get sick of it, I know McDonald's is always hiring.
2) Orville and Wilbur should have indicated that operators of their miraculous invention would lose all commercial privileges at age 65...then we would have never had this whole problem to begin with.
3) It's got to go to 65. We should have never forced people to retire to begin with --- I've got to believe that any folks that are complaining currently WOULD/WILL feel differently if they were at 59.5 and didn't want to stop doing what they love.
Mon deux centimes.
3. those same people will still be complaining at 64.5. I want to know what is it going to do to my body. ie flying back side of the clock. do some studies before just changing the rule.
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