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Old 08-20-2020, 11:00 AM
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Originally Posted by rickair7777 View Post
Didn't say you should, just if you do you'll probably like it.
My parents said the same thing about vegetables.
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Old 08-20-2020, 01:48 PM
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Absolutely. It's about time someone says this straight up. Kids are NOT for everyone, just like college isn't either.

The high 5 and low 6 figure $$$ numbers that are being thrown around here are still less than the total cost of kids. I'm a late Gen Xer/early millennial, and I NEVER want kids and never have. The COVID-19 crisis has only proven what a good decision it was to remain childless.

Hell.....I worry enough about feeding myself in these troubling times. Why on Gods Green Earth do I want to have to worry about feeding someone else. Not to mention during my days off (pre-COVID at least) I put my travel benefits to use and visited Europe, Mexico, and many other places and had a blast. Never could have done that with kids, at least not nearly as hassle free.

And I haven't even mentioned the opportunity cost gain such as being able to move to base on a whim at your regional, move again to take the first available upgrade, move again to the junior base when moving onto a LCC or legacy, etc, rinse and repeat, as well not caring about good schools (2X for same home, 10 miles away).

Just to be clear, I'm not knocking others decisions to have kids. Instead, I'm just putting forth that simply having kids should not be the default thing, because if parenting is not totally in you blood and something you are passionate about, then that child will sense that and its terrible unfair to him/her.

I actually love kids. As long as I can return them to their parents at the end of the day.
I’m in this post and I *like* it. Xennial here and I feel the exact same way. Thankfully so does my wife! 😅
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Old 08-20-2020, 02:05 PM
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Originally Posted by brocklee9000 View Post
My parents said the same thing about vegetables.
They're good for you.
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Old 08-20-2020, 02:39 PM
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Originally Posted by BigRedFlyer View Post
I’m in this post and I *like* it. Xennial here and I feel the exact same way. Thankfully so does my wife! 😅
I know, right! Last week for 5 days, I was on a kayak trip on a wilderness waterway in the most remote region of the entire eastern US, and one of the guys our age who has 3 girls, ages 9 to 2, was constantly dreading going back to the craziness of home for the last 2 days of the trip. Hearing that made me soooo thankful for the life choices I've made.
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Old 08-20-2020, 08:15 PM
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Originally Posted by brocklee9000 View Post
I know a lot of people say that, but I’m good. I know it’s not a popular opinion.
Right there with ya! Saw a great bumper sticker the other day. "More dogs, less people."
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Old 08-20-2020, 09:24 PM
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Right there with ya! Saw a great bumper sticker the other day. "More dogs, less people."
and right there for the win-win. I wouldn’t wish some poor kid to wind up with parents who thought like that. Course I wouldn’t wish them on a dog either...
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Old 08-21-2020, 04:27 AM
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The airlines have to deal with two things

1) pandemic pre-vaccine
2) economy post vaccine

#1 is clearly a disaster and the longer peoples heads get held underwater, the more carriers will fold.

#2 isn’t necessarily a lost decade. People guess, but nobody really knows how that’s gonna play out
On the news this morning they were saying 40 million (rental) housing are now facing evictions. They didn"t mention how many people are going to lose there homes due to foreclosure.
Its estimated 420k people have left NYC in the past two months.
With that kinda news, I can't imagine people spending money on plane tickets is a priority.
Unfortunately, being in the airline industry has always proven to be an unstable career..
You have to make six figures a year because over time it averages out to five figures.
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Old 08-21-2020, 06:42 AM
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On the news this morning they were saying 40 million (rental) housing are now facing evictions. They didn"t mention how many people are going to lose there homes due to foreclosure.
Its estimated 420k people have left NYC in the past two months.
That's might be good for airlines in the short-term, with congress split. The house will want to do something about that, the senate will want to save business/economic infrastructure so they'll probably have to make a deal (which will have a bone for labor).

Although if the election switches control of both the senate and white house we might be looking at green new deal... let the airlines fold since they want to get rid of them anyway. The good news there is you'll get $600/week UBI for life. The bad news is that you'll get $600/week UBI for life.
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Old 08-21-2020, 06:48 AM
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Originally Posted by rickair7777 View Post
That's might be good for airlines in the short-term, with congress split. The house will want to do something about that, the senate will want to save business/economic infrastructure so they'll probably have to make a deal (which will have a bone for labor).

Although if the election switches control of both the senate and white house we might be looking at green new deal... let the airlines fold since they want to get rid of them anyway. The good news there is you'll get $600/week UBI for life. The bad news is that you'll get $600/week UBI for life.
The GND thing is all smoke and mirrors to everyone but a radical few. You cant just get rid of air travel in the US. We are not built for it.
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Old 08-21-2020, 07:04 AM
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The GND thing is all smoke and mirrors to everyone but a radical few. You cant just get rid of air travel in the US. We are not built for it.
The US economy wasn't designed to be turned off and back on and yet here we are...

Just because it's stupid or ill advised doesn't mean it's not possible to try something different.
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