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Old 12-06-2020 | 07:28 AM
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Originally Posted by DarkSideMoon
That time honored American tradition of just shooting people you disagree with.
Strawman. It's not about shooting people "you disagree with" it's about shooting tyrants who take away your rights... which is a natural right guaranteed by the 2nd Amendment.
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Old 12-06-2020 | 08:57 AM
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Originally Posted by SonicFlyer
Strawman. It's not about shooting people "you disagree with" it's about shooting tyrants who take away your rights... which is a natural right guaranteed by the 2nd Amendment.
pretty sure those 20 1st graders had a right to life. But I guess your right to a gun trumps a 1st graders right to live. Makes sense. Those kids would have been entering highschool this year, a few years away from being able to drive, excited. Instead their entire lives were stolen from them by a “man” who should have never been allowed to have a gun. All just 11 days before Christmas.
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Old 12-06-2020 | 09:04 AM
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Originally Posted by SonicFlyer
Strawman. It's not about shooting people "you disagree with" it's about shooting tyrants who take away your rights... which is a natural right guaranteed by the 2nd Amendment.
Under no pretext should arms and ammunition be surrendered; any attempt to disarm the workers must be frustrated, by force if necessary.” - Karl Marx

I’m not even close to being a Marxist but that is a garbage argument.
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Old 12-06-2020 | 09:10 AM
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Originally Posted by highfarfast
I’m afraid you might not be right. Young people seem to be very open to socialism and even marxism these days. While young people typically have low turnout for voting, they’ll grow older and vote. I hope they’ll mature a bit and grow away from these socialistic ideals before it’s too late but in today’s world where everyone lives in their own self created bubble, I doubt it.
Typically when these naïve people get out of the protection of college and their parents and have to live in the real world their views tend to change to something more realistic. This has been going on for years. Not worried.
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Old 12-06-2020 | 10:49 AM
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The $2T CARES Act was socialism. Doling out that money to corporations, PPP, and state governments was just as 'socialist' as giving it directly to the people, but the govt believed it would be better to target where the taxpayer dollars were distributed rather just cutting every American a $6k check and letting us drive the market. My point is that the US government is nowhere near a "free market" and you're out of your mind if you don't think the US government can and will do something about climate change. What, specifically? I have no idea, but I'd bet my bottom dollar that the airline with the most fuel efficient aircraft will have a massive advantage.
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Old 12-06-2020 | 10:53 AM
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Originally Posted by KelvinHelmholtz
Under no pretext should arms and ammunition be surrendered; any attempt to disarm the workers must be frustrated, by force if necessary.” - Karl Marx

I’m not even close to being a Marxist but that is a garbage argument.
How many workers actually get to keep firearms once the revolution is over? Zero.
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Old 12-06-2020 | 11:35 AM
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Originally Posted by rickair7777
How many workers actually get to keep firearms once the revolution is over? Zero.
Yeah I was going to say the same thing but the very fact we are discussing the merits of Marxism/Communism is disturbing enough.
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Old 12-06-2020 | 11:52 AM
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Originally Posted by rickair7777
Marxism (implemented as communism) involves shooting everybody who stands in your way in the first place. So yeah, best to shoot them before they shoot you and steal all your stuff.
During the 20th Century and early 21st Century, these governments shot and killed over 100 million of their own citizens who were civilians. These were in multiple countries. Reread that and let it soak in.
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Old 12-06-2020 | 12:12 PM
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Yeah I was going to say the same thing but the very fact we are discussing the merits of Marxism/Communism is disturbing enough.
True.

our education systems have failed completely when communism/socialism supporters is what’s being produced.
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Old 12-06-2020 | 12:13 PM
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Originally Posted by terks43
pretty sure those 20 1st graders had a right to life. But I guess your right to a gun trumps a 1st graders right to live. Makes sense. Those kids would have been entering highschool this year, a few years away from being able to drive, excited. Instead their entire lives were stolen from them by a “man” who should have never been allowed to have a gun. All just 11 days before Christmas.
So you’re using stolen weapons as a reason to take guns from legal owners? We should ban planes too. The people in the World Trade Center had a right to live too. . .
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