Prop Jobs Coming Back?
12-08-2020 | 11:53 PM
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Riding on a turboprop is like driving to the airport in a 1980 diesel VW Rabbit. Slow and noisy!
12-09-2020 | 12:39 AM
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12-09-2020 | 10:44 AM
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Yes. If a significant portion of the flight time is below 10K, or spent on an arrival/departure with published speeds the flight time difference gets negligible pretty quickly. New prop designs are quite fast by old standards, and can be quiet as well.
12-09-2020 | 10:52 AM
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I’d think anything below 400nm is better in a turboprop. In the terminal area, ATC loved turboprops because they could keep the speed up longer than jets because they bleed energy easier.
12-09-2020 | 01:31 PM
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Plus they don't need to get up high to be efficient, so you can hang out in less congested airspace without eating up gas, and on shorter flights you don't waste time climbing. Flights like ORD-CVG or ORD-IND, in a CRJ you waste all this time climbing up at 290 to get a few extra knots and fuel efficiency just to come back down after 20 minutes of cruise flight. A turboprop could level off at 20, cruise a few knots slower, and still get there in roughly the same amount of time while using way less fuel.
12-09-2020 | 02:48 PM
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If it's cheaper, people will buy the ticket. They will make clever to them jokes about it as they board or will make disparaging remarks on facebook about having to ride on an "old prop". But the consumer has shown price point is really all they think about when booking a fight.
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12-09-2020 | 08:20 PM
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Plus they don't need to get up high to be efficient, so you can hang out in less congested airspace without eating up gas, and on shorter flights you don't waste time climbing. Flights like ORD-CVG or ORD-IND, in a CRJ you waste all this time climbing up at 290 to get a few extra knots and fuel efficiency just to come back down after 20 minutes of cruise flight. A turboprop could level off at 20, cruise a few knots slower, and still get there in roughly the same amount of time while using way less fuel.
Since Airbus owns ATR, the 72-600 sim is located at the Airbus Center in Miami, the PFD/MFD/FMS, and systems are similar to what’s in an A320. ATR training is the Airbus method, which might make the transition to an Airbus a little easier when the opportunity to move up arrives.
12-10-2020 | 04:55 AM
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I think you’re all crazy; props SUCK as a passenger. Stay lower? It’s more bumpy. They’re loud (if it’s not the outright noise, it’s the drone from the props being out of sync). They smell (you don’t get that gas smell in a jet). They’re small (having little to no overhead storage is one of the greatest sins for pax). They’re dumpy (in a pax mind, jet = sleek, modern, safe. Prop = old, slow, unsafe).
I lived for several years in an area that was only served by props, and I hated it. I would routinely drive 2.5 hours or 3.5 hours to the two closest larger airports so that I didn’t have to ride on a piece of crap prop.
You may be nostalgic for props or like them for whatever other reason, but most pax HATE them.
I lived for several years in an area that was only served by props, and I hated it. I would routinely drive 2.5 hours or 3.5 hours to the two closest larger airports so that I didn’t have to ride on a piece of crap prop.
You may be nostalgic for props or like them for whatever other reason, but most pax HATE them.
12-10-2020 | 08:57 AM
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I think you’re all crazy; props SUCK as a passenger. Stay lower? It’s more bumpy. They’re loud (if it’s not the outright noise, it’s the drone from the props being out of sync). They smell (you don’t get that gas smell in a jet). They’re small (having little to no overhead storage is one of the greatest sins for pax). They’re dumpy (in a pax mind, jet = sleek, modern, safe. Prop = old, slow, unsafe).
I lived for several years in an area that was only served by props, and I hated it. I would routinely drive 2.5 hours or 3.5 hours to the two closest larger airports so that I didn’t have to ride on a piece of crap prop.
You may be nostalgic for props or like them for whatever other reason, but most pax HATE them.
I lived for several years in an area that was only served by props, and I hated it. I would routinely drive 2.5 hours or 3.5 hours to the two closest larger airports so that I didn’t have to ride on a piece of crap prop.
You may be nostalgic for props or like them for whatever other reason, but most pax HATE them.
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