You're right.

It also doesn't mean they should strike for a 15% raise, either.

I don't know much about Frontier's new CBA but I don't know any pay dropped other than first year pay (which blows, but they approved that B-scale and they'll live with it). IMO the biggest thing Frontier pilots gave up was scope for Lynx...

I agree............ Im just sick of pilots taking the fault for AIRLINES MIS-MANAGAMNET.

Aren't we all? :rolleyes:

Reality is- it's like that in every industry. Employees get the unlubed shaft, management gets the golden parachute.

Friendly or not, the flights probably weight restricted anyway.

Amen, the last hard stand I had as spot 100, right by the door. Other than that its all gates:D And if i hear another CHQ pilot put all their woes on XJT because we kept the airplanes and because they get the hard stands I am seriously gonna lay someone out right in the middle of terminal B. Hears the deal folks: XJT told Larry that we were keeping the airplanes on the deadline specified. Larry knew what that date was but he and RAH decided to jump the gun and pick which routes and stations would go to CHQ before the announcement. I know it amused Jim Ream to no end when Larry just about choked on his burger when he told him XJT was keeping the airplanes. And as far as the hardstands, XJT has been using the hard stands for YEARS! If you can explain to me how XJT can use the hard stands and still get out on time with all the people and all the bags WITH ACARS (none of this calling your own times BS), I will give you a cookie.

Thats like saying a runner who jumps the gun was faked out by the starter not pulling the trigger when they thought they would. Give me a break:rolleyes:

Very true! I don't understand what CHQ's gripe with the hardstands is... they're no big deal unless you have 20 minutes to change planes, and your next gate is over at 60 or something- which wouldn't be a problem to them since they're stuck in the playpen over there anyway.

There was a rumor floating around the pipe that they're going to be using gates on a limited basis- wonder how that's gonna work out?


.... so, what kinda cookie ya got there, freezingflyboy? :D :p

CHQ has already started using some gates where NWA used to be (87-88 i think?) But they have to have a little adapter because the CRJ Can't Reach Jetways. Guess thats why they call CHQ the "special needs airline"

....any one you want from down in Gordo's. Best cookies in the airport!

hehe.... Cant Reach Jetways.... NICE! :D

and gordo's has some great food! dang there are some things I miss about IAH :p

Most of us can't get a ride home anyway because you can't even fill all 50 seats, hell you usually can't fill 45 of them. However, this is not your fault. I as an XJET pilot realize that, and therefore am not mad at you, the CHQ pilot. As a matter of fact, I have had many friendly conversations with CHQ pilots down in IAH. I also have many friends who fly the 145s for CHQ, most are STL based. My point is I as an XJET pilot am not mad or ****ed at you the CHQ pilots. I am mad and frustrated with CAL and your jackass CEO Bedford. He gave you guys a crap operation with the CRJs, not to mention the horrible W&B program they made. What is it, like 194lbs per person in the summer and 30lbs for every bag. No wonder you can't take everyone. Oh, and it also sucks that you get paid for butts in the seats and you take people over bags. Yeah, then they have to go on XJET flights that operate behind you and it screws commuters because our flight get weight restricted due to the fact we have to take the bags you left behind. Bedford bit off more than he could chew, and his employees, XJET employees, CAL employees, and CAL customers are all suffering for what he did. ****-poor decision making, guess thats why he fits right into the airline management profile. So once again, I am not mad at you the pilot. I caught a ride on a 145 and the crew was great...we BSd the whole flight. Oh, and I am SORRY for my co-workers personal attacks. P.S. Please fight for better payrates of the E170s. Thanks

Your blaming the CEO for the established average passenger weights? Seriously?