Originally Posted by ZeroTT

“Doing away with business travel” is a straw man that’s easy to knock down. The real threat? An 8% reduction in business travel with corporate investment in telepresence.

will people who work on commission stop travelling? No.

will a 737 load of Fortune 100 compliance workers fly to omaha for an update on changes to the 2023 omnibus widget act, maybe not

Originally Posted by ZeroTT

Whatever numbers you use, it doesn’t take anywhere near ALL business travel ceasing to hurt.

Originally Posted by ZeroTT

Wages rise based on supply and demand. Companies raise wages when they aren’t getting what they need. So we shall see.

Originally Posted by cfii2007

My local Walmart is hiring with wages starting at $15 per hour...............

Originally Posted by rickair7777

Has the fed stopped paying people to stay home?

Originally Posted by Duffman

I see what you're saying, but my point was that there'll be a real bottle neck in a few years to get from 250ish to 1,500 hours. Most CPLs with 121 aspirations would probably prefer to fly pipeline, charter, 135 corporate in a Cirrus, etc, but the majority of jobs available for CPLs are as CFIs, so that's why so many people do it. CFIs typically cobble together their hours from #1-5, but that still requires a lot of people who won't make it to the airlines through what is currently the most popular avenue.

1) I think this number is fixed, regardless of airline demand

2) Same as #1

3) Sadly, this is currently how CFIs get most of their hours. Maybe more airline hopefuls would mean more washouts

4) This is a fixed number and just supplements CFI flying, if you want 1,500 hours in <10 years

5) Same as #4


Maybe the 'standard pathway' of the future will be buy a cheap 152, fly it for 1,000 hours for roughly $70k of gas and half an overhaul, then sell it to the next guy, but I digress. The issue is there won't be a huge change in the demand for CFI jobs. If more CFIs are needed to train new airline hopefuls, then what happens to the trainees when they get their ratings and a dozen of them are competing for the CFI job? Maybe a few fail out, one gets a pipeline job, but what about the other 8 guys?


Like I said, if this were my problem and I had the power to make decisions, I'd be lobbying the FAA for a quicker path to get pilots from CPL to ATP, because it's going to cause a shortage further down the logistics chain.

Originally Posted by tsimmns927

This is exactly my plan. Buy a cheap, but safe plane. Go in with a buddy or two to save on cost, fly it in circles and build my hours. Honestly my goal is to get to a regional, but I can’t afford to go from a 90k a year job working contract maintenance on military aircraft to 20 bucks an hour with no guarantee of flying at all unless I have a student. I think more and more people according to a FB group I’m in are going this route also.

Originally Posted by tsimmns927

This is exactly my plan. Buy a cheap, but safe plane. Go in with a buddy or two to save on cost, fly it in circles and build my hours. Honestly my goal is to get to a regional, but I can’t afford to go from a 90k a year job working contract maintenance on military aircraft to 20 bucks an hour with no guarantee of flying at all unless I have a student. I think more and more people according to a FB group I’m in are going this route also.