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14735 + commutair, piedmont, gojet, Mesa, horizon
Some percentage of these are lifers and some have zero or practically zero 121 time keep in mind. Some have no 4 yr degree |
Originally Posted by UnbeatenPath
(Post 3301979)
YX about 2375
PSA 1741 PDT 746 ENY 2500 EDV 1905 AW 545 CA 660 GJ 500 MESA 1207 HZ 850 SKW 5152 These numbers were taken from the snapshot of each respective airline on APC. Around 19,000 total. Obvious fluctuation in the past 2 years, however I do believe these numbers are close. With the amount of legacy/major retirements slated for the next 10 years there aren't enough pilots (total at the above mentioned regionals) to staff retirement attrition, let alone growth. There is an average of 2,850 age related mandatory retirements from all of the legacies, majors, as well as two major cargo ops. TOTAL for the next decade. Things are going to be interesting the next several years! |
Originally Posted by threeighteen
(Post 3301972)
They'll start hiring FOs over captains soon to avoid this scenario.
Right now I'd be inclined to NOT upgrade if I was at a regional that flew for the major carrier that I wanted to fly at. |
Originally Posted by TimetoClimb
(Post 3301989)
Some have no 4 yr degree
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Originally Posted by NotaVOLpilot865
(Post 3301991)
These numbers were taken from the snapshot of each respective airline on APC. Around 19,000 total. Obvious fluctuation in the past 2 years, however I do believe these numbers are close. With the amount of legacy/major retirements slated for the next 10 years there aren't enough pilots (total at the above mentioned regionals) to staff retirement attrition, let alone growth. There is an average of 2,850 age related mandatory retirements from all of the legacies, majors, as well as two major cargo ops. TOTAL for the next decade.
Things are going to be interesting the next several years! |
Originally Posted by dera
(Post 3302011)
Frontier knows this. That is why they have built the pathways from Purdue, Embry-Riddle and so on. Right now they are only hiring a few per month, but when the going gets good, they can easily expand that, and destroy the "cadet" pathways to regionals.
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Originally Posted by FlyGuy2021
(Post 3302028)
The problem with Frontier, however, is that there are always quite a few Frontier pilots that would leave and go to a legacy if given the opportunity. I agree that Frontier may be able to get some good pilots directly from the schools before they even get to the regionals. But, the legacy airlines can steal good, qualified pilots from Frontier at will.
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Originally Posted by TimetoClimb
(Post 3301977)
I agree, If you listen to this advice you are far too gullible to be a captain.
imagine explaining to a recruiter why you have no PIC time, because a conspiracy about that very recruiters own hiring shenanigans
Originally Posted by FlyGuy2021
(Post 3302028)
The problem with Frontier, however, is that there are always quite a few Frontier pilots that would leave and go to a legacy if given the opportunity. I agree that Frontier may be able to get some good pilots directly from the schools before they even get to the regionals. But, the legacy airlines can steal good, qualified pilots from Frontier at will.
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Originally Posted by threeighteen
(Post 3301972)
They'll start hiring FOs over captains soon to avoid this scenario.
Right now I'd be inclined to NOT upgrade if I was at a regional that flew for the major carrier that I wanted to fly at. |
Originally Posted by ZeroTT
(Post 3301983)
LCA’s seem like they could be another linchpin that might go extinct, although that might be easier to fix with money
As for the majors only hiring FO’s …. even if that happens (doubtful) non-legacy hiring should be sufficient to cause trouble |
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